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Originally posted by WABs_OOE View PostThen, the question is why the fuss and why are the returns not in the Committee's Hands?
We've known what the fuss is:
Donald Trump believes that he answers to no one and that he is above the law.
We've known why the returns are not in the Committees's hands:
Donald Trump has engaged in a pervasive obstruction of virtually anything requested or subpoenaed of him by Congress.“He was the most prodigious personification of all human inferiorities. He was an utterly incapable, unadapted, irresponsible, psychopathic personality, full of empty, infantile fantasies, but cursed with the keen intuition of a rat or a guttersnipe. He represented the shadow, the inferior part of everybody’s personality, in an overwhelming degree, and this was another reason why they fell for him.”
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Originally posted by snapper View PostYea, like the difference between a charitable foundation and a person - which the Trump family failed to observe.
Fine but you say he was a 'successful businessman' despite all the evidence. If your business is so 'successful' (apart from all the ones that went bankrupt or got sued - like 'Trump University') why won't local banks back you? Why do need $2bln of loans from Deutsche Bank, allegedly guaranteed by VTB Bank? Why will you not comply with IRS law when asked to do so by the US Congress? The most we can say about his wealth (or lack of) is that it is unproven and he is very reluctant to disclose it to the point of being willing to challenge Congress' legal right to know about it.Hit the grape lethally.
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Originally posted by WABs_OOE View PostI am serious. Congress should have been at the IRS's doors with Court Enforcement grabbing boxes after boxes.“He was the most prodigious personification of all human inferiorities. He was an utterly incapable, unadapted, irresponsible, psychopathic personality, full of empty, infantile fantasies, but cursed with the keen intuition of a rat or a guttersnipe. He represented the shadow, the inferior part of everybody’s personality, in an overwhelming degree, and this was another reason why they fell for him.”
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Originally posted by WABs_OOE View PostI am serious. Congress should have been at the IRS's doors with Court Enforcement grabbing boxes after boxes.
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Originally posted by WABs_OOE View PostYes.
2. There are multiple court rulings, but...
3. It's been appealed all the way to the Supreme Court.
But, again, the argument of Trump all along is that he's immune from prosecution in the first place.“He was the most prodigious personification of all human inferiorities. He was an utterly incapable, unadapted, irresponsible, psychopathic personality, full of empty, infantile fantasies, but cursed with the keen intuition of a rat or a guttersnipe. He represented the shadow, the inferior part of everybody’s personality, in an overwhelming degree, and this was another reason why they fell for him.”
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Originally posted by TopHatter View PostInterestingly, I've asked several of Trump's defenders on this board what they think about that claim of complete immunity from prosecution. Unsurprisingly, they have been either unable to respond or unwilling to respond.
Should things come to such a pass i'm confident your guys will ensure it never happens ever again by passing a law of some sort : )
I get that in a presidential system you don't want the top guy taken down easily but this does not mean he gets licence to commit a crime which is what that hypothetical you mentioned is insinuating
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Originally posted by Wonderful Plans View PostI'm not questioning these accusations. I'm not following the case and don't really know much at all about what Trump is up against. Point is, he's got balls as a President and he's getting things done that the ones before him were too scared to act upon. His approval rating is about as high as it can get, he's converted scores of Democrats to become Republican, few presidents before him have issued as many executive orders as him, meaning that hes an action man and always working to put productive action into motion. His biggest enemies in the government are the backstabbing crooks. That doesn't mean his own hands are clean, but say you remove him and Pence steps in, what do you think would happen with Trumps progress? Would Pence reverse some of it or continue Trumps work? Would Pence simply do what Trump is doing?
His approval rating has consistently remained at around 40 -45% Not a majority of US citizens.
You think executive orders are healthy in a democracy? Allegedly he told Mnuchin to draw up an executive order that overruled an existing law regarding bribery and US companies not practicing it. Sadly he had to be informed that this was not possible as of course the passing of laws is the rightful province of the legislature not the executive. If that were not the case we would have rule by personal whim of an autocrat. Please consider the implications of your support.
As for Pence, personally I would impeach him too as an accessory to this whole criminal syndicate. And Barr.
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Originally posted by Double Edge View PostI don't buy it
That such a claim is lawful? Well, I don't buy it either because it isn't lawful.
Originally posted by Double Edge View PostShould things come to such a pass i'm confident your guys will ensure it never happens ever again by passing a law of some sort : )
Originally posted by Double Edge View PostI get that in a presidential system you don't want the top guy taken down easily but this does not mean he gets licence to commit a crime which is what that hypothetical you mentioned is insinuating
Does this claim by Trump give you have a better understanding of why this man is so dangerous to the United States?“He was the most prodigious personification of all human inferiorities. He was an utterly incapable, unadapted, irresponsible, psychopathic personality, full of empty, infantile fantasies, but cursed with the keen intuition of a rat or a guttersnipe. He represented the shadow, the inferior part of everybody’s personality, in an overwhelming degree, and this was another reason why they fell for him.”
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Originally posted by tbm3fan View PostSo that means you didn't read the essay from 1993 by a leading expert on the subject. Why, of course not. You're dismissed...
You're unaware this nonsense was said quite frequently in India since 2014
I called it out early only the very ignorant repeat it these days, ones on the left who won't be told otherwise
Not into fear mongering, prefer fear bashingLast edited by Double Edge; 22 Jan 20,, 00:59.
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Originally posted by snapper View Post
I already wrote my position clearly, "I'm not questioning these accusations. I'm not following the case and don't really know much at all about what Trump is up against." And as such, none of my comments can be attributed to being opinions on the trial.Hit the grape lethally.
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