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  1. DOR, DE, ...

    DOR, DE,

    https://www.rfa.org/english/news/china/wuhan-deaths-03272020182846.html

    Estimates Show Wuhan Death Toll Far Higher Than Official Figure
    2020-03-27Email storyComment on this...
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    joe, well, well, will you look at this. ...

    joe,



    well, well, will you look at this.

    instead of concentrating on getting medical supplies to our governors, this is what Trump chooses to spend his attention on.
    ...
  3. not in the US...quite a few red states have yet...

    not in the US...quite a few red states have yet to take action.



    rural for the US. plus, it gets bad enough, even -those- places will get hit. most farmers, after all, buy their stuff from a...
  4. it's China and the CCP. they're almost certainly...

    it's China and the CCP. they're almost certainly lying, although it's not in the same league as Iran.
    ...
  5. America rural is not northern Saskatchewan rural....

    America rural is not northern Saskatchewan rural.

    there's enough medium-sized cities there, like Oklahoma City or Boise or Omaha, that there will still be significant spread.



    South Africa...
  6. high population density -- insanely high in the...

    high population density -- insanely high in the favelas--, poor healthcare system, and a President who's busy imitating Trump.

    Brazil's gonna get effed so hard in two weeks.
  7. correct, the re-infection threat will remain for...

    correct, the re-infection threat will remain for the foreseeable future.

    that doesn't prevent Xi Jinping from crowing about it, though.



    the rural areas are going to get devastated once it...
  8. snapper, boils down to more centralized...

    snapper,



    boils down to more centralized authority and willingness to put aside political/economic opposition.

    here, there's 50 states and each state governor determines the risk they are...
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    unemployment insurance claims shot up to 3.3...

    unemployment insurance claims shot up to 3.3 million this week...and it's only been a week since a number of states started doing shelter-in-place, let alone full lockdown. as context, Goldman Sachs...
  10. nurses are using goddam trash bags and bandannas...

    nurses are using goddam trash bags and bandannas as PPE.

    first NYC nurse died yesterday since contracting coronavirus last week; his hospital didn't have enough PPE while he was treating...
  11. nope, this is mostly a function of partisanship. ...

    nope, this is mostly a function of partisanship.

    IE, it's just Republicans that have had, ah, relaxed views about COVID up until this last week. and the following increase in the number of...
  12. Republicans polled -still- have a higher rate of...

    Republicans polled -still- have a higher rate of skepticism about COVID being a "hoax" or "overblown".

    this leads to greater numbers of people disregarding things such as voluntary...
  13. 'It's a two-way street': Trump suggests federal...

    'It's a two-way street': Trump suggests federal coronavirus aid will be given to governors who 'treat us well'
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    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/24/anthony-f...

    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/24/anthony-fauci-fringe-maga-target-147401

    christ.

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    Anthony Fauci becomes a fringe MAGA target
    The cues from right-wing media, as split as they...
  15. 48374 here's a good graph for context. ...

    48374

    here's a good graph for context.

    Italy's lockdown on the 9th is finally producing dividends with the reduction of cases over the last 2 days.

    deaths in Italy should start peaking...
  16. no, they're not. re-infection is possible, and...

    no, they're not.

    re-infection is possible, and they can't be certain they're down to ZERO cases (asymptomatic). plus, COVID survives on surfaces for a period of time, as well.

    plus, COVID...
  17. ventilators, for starters. reduction of the...

    ventilators, for starters. reduction of the secondary opportunistic infections, some of which can be treated. if there was no difference, people wouldn't go to hospitals!

    the quarantine measures...
  18. ^ correct; Italy suffered something like 275,000...

    ^ correct; Italy suffered something like 275,000 deaths over 2 years of the Spanish Flu.

    with COVID, Italy has suffered 6,820 and counting-- and it's been less than 2 months. this, with stringent...
  19. uhh...no. statistically, its mortality rate...

    uhh...no.

    statistically, its mortality rate is about as bad as Spanish Flu; the biggest difference is that rates are lower in developed countries-- up until the healthcare resources are...
  20. GVChamp, he merely just needed to not say...

    GVChamp,



    he merely just needed to not say this was a hoax, and start buying masks, ventilators, basic stuff. the early emergency funding request of $8 billion could have been passed in january...
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