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  1. Problem: when even the experts disagree with each...

    Problem: when even the experts disagree with each other. CDC thought that they had containement and argued against Fauci and Blix's mitigation. Obviously they were wrong ... but then it was too late....
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    It's playing with numbers ...

    It's playing with numbers

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-death-rate/

    Apparently different methodologies are used to determine specific measurements. Like your BMI is NOT...
  3. We didn't do social distancing and lockdowns back...

    We didn't do social distancing and lockdowns back then. The economy was not a factor. Everyone went about their jobs.
  4. It also means that there is no one else within...

    It also means that there is no one else within reach to infect, ie quarrantine.

    An entire state? That's impractical. The best we can do is a city, ie a seige. But even then, it is not necessary....
  5. I'm not the one in charge. All I can point to is...

    I'm not the one in charge. All I can point to is that this is not the worst case scenario and we still have options.

    Don't know but it should be discussed instead of a blanket rejection....
  6. No one living has any experience from this. This...

    No one living has any experience from this. This is all too new. The only thing we can draw upon are historic experiences such as 1918 H1N1 Spanish Flu and the ebola experiences from Africa. Thus...
  7. But there is burn out. Or you can use...

    But there is burn out.

    Or you can use quarrantine.

    This is the worst. Lessons are learned. Health workers will be screened left, right, and centre. The most vulnerable will be protected up the...
  8. We're talking semantics here. I really doubt...

    We're talking semantics here. I really doubt there is much difference between 60% and 67% infected/vaccinated (worldometer sets 67% as COVID-19 herd immunity).

    So we do what we've always done....
  9. The point is to reach that, you have to have...

    The point is to reach that, you have to have infection - not zero infection. The more you have, not less, the closer you are to herd immunity.
  10. So, the herd is becoming more resistant to the...

    So, the herd is becoming more resistant to the virus, no?
  11. No wonder you're an academic and never had to...

    No wonder you're an academic and never had to make a decision that deals with peoiple's lives or livelihoods. We are betting on the side that Doctors know something about viruses and that immediate...
  12. That is false. As the number of infected grows,...

    That is false. As the number of infected grows, the RATE of spread SLOWS. There is only a certain number of uninfected left and if they are surrounded by those who have recovered, then the rate slows...
  13. If that is to be the case then open up the entire...

    If that is to be the case then open up the entire economy and stop all lock downs. There is no point. All everyone is then doing is delaying the inevitable.

    However, even Dr Fauci stated that he...
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    God Almighty! And you two are on me about Celine...

    God Almighty! And you two are on me about Celine Dion.
  15. What I said about a bad plan is better than no...

    What I said about a bad plan is better than no plan.
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    How would this work? If the government refuses to...

    How would this work? If the government refuses to prosecute, then don't this become a civil matter and not a criminal matter?
  17. I will take the military assessement. Those in...

    I will take the military assessement. Those in the military who had recovered from COVID-19. Are they combat effective? Yes. That's good enough for me.
  18. The US as a whole? No, but NYC cluster is miles...

    The US as a whole? No, but NYC cluster is miles ahead of Australia.

    You're describing those who has been hospitalized. For the mass majority who had not been hospitalized, they are fine. Also,...
  19. Except that the US and others would be much...

    Except that the US and others would be much further ahead in the herd immunity thing since the most vulnerable would have mostly died. This is not a disease that attacks the young and strong but the...
  20. Don't celebrate just yet. Round two is just six...

    Don't celebrate just yet. Round two is just six months away and no one can afford another round of this mess.

    Social distancing, flattening the curve, etc, do not save lives. They save hospitals....
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