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    Quote Originally Posted by omon View Post
    ok we don't see eye to eye on this one it's ok even sciantists disagree. can anybody sciantificly explain what human consciousness is?

    About your text : sorry, just to boring to finish it
    Nothing new, and nothing interesting to my eyes.
    you asked a question i gave you an answer and you too borred to read it, makes me think you never cared what the answer was.
    I gave you the answer 42

    Ask any student of engineering or science and he will tell you thats a good answer to life the universe and everything. Look it up at the wikipedia if you dont believe me

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    honestly i had no idea what 42 was , now i looked in wikipedia as you recomended, very interesting, now a have more questions than answers.
    is this right?; earth spins, some forces make it do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by omon View Post
    honestly i had no idea what 42 was , now i looked in wikipedia as you recomended, very interesting, now a have more questions than answers.
    It's a joke, omon. From a book- "The Hitchikers Guide to the Galaxy" by Doug Adams. It's humor, not intended to be taken seriously.
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    is this right?; earth spins, some forces make it do that.
    Everything spins, omon. From sub-atomic particles to galaxies and super-clusters, and everything in between. You would need to apply force to stop the spin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by highsea View Post
    Everything spins, omon. From sub-atomic particles to galaxies and super-clusters, and everything in between. You would need to apply force to stop the spin.
    finaly we agree on something. what is that force that spins everything??

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    Quote Originally Posted by omon View Post
    ...what is that force that spins everything??
    Gravity, on the large scale of planets and galaxies.
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    ok makes sence, what's the diference between gravity and levity?

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    Quote Originally Posted by omon View Post
    finaly we agree on something. what is that force that spins everything??
    Non-quantum objects spin because of mass and momentum - as particles collapse and accrete into a larger mass in space, they each bring a unique velocity vector into the accreting mass. These velocities will be averaged into a direction of spin (called "angular") momentum that is maintained (and conserved) over the life of that object.

    Quantum particles don't spin in the same way - they have an attribute that is called "spin" but it's not really the same as the spin of non-quantum objects. I assume that quantum particles may also spin about an axis, but I actually don't know. Someone with more knowledge about QM could answer that I suspect.

    So gravity causes collections of particles to move toward each other and collapse into a single larger mass, but it is the velocity vectors and momentum of the particles themselves that cause the actual spin.

    As a side note, the principle of the conservation of angular momentum is why the moon is moving further away from the Earth over time. The total angular momentum of the Earth-Moon system must be conserved over time, so as the Earth's rotation slows (which it does mainly due to frictional forces involved in the inner fluid core areas and the surface fluid atmospheric areas interacting with the solid parts of the planet) the radius of the system must increase because a longer moment arm means more momentum (think of a spinning turntable - a point on the outer rim must cover more distance in the same amount of time as a point near the axis and so is moving faster and has more momentum). So the Moon moves further away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by omon View Post
    ...what's the diference between gravity and levity?
    Why, gravity is the serious one, of course.
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    do you think that antigravitational devices are myth ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by omon View Post
    do you think that antigravitational devices are myth ?
    Depends on what you call an antigravity device- a helicopter is a machine that overcomes the force of gravity, and I believe in helicopters.

    What I don't believe in is machines that defy the laws of physics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by highsea View Post
    Depends on what you call an antigravity device- a helicopter is a machine that overcomes the force of gravity, and I believe in helicopters.

    What I don't believe in is machines that defy the laws of physics.
    http://www.rexresearch.com/grebenn/grebenn.htm

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    From that link:
    For example, in numerous controlled experiments, cases have been found of material objects decreasing in weight while under directed human psycho-kinetic influence, or a yogi's levitation while in states of deep transcendental Maharishi meditation, or even a medium’s levitation or disappearance in certain rare spiritual communication sessions.
    This is Metaphysics- it is not science.

    Entertaining reading, but the so-called experiments and results are not repeatable, and in violation of several of the main laws of physics.
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    wether you belive or not some insects do have PHENOMENA OF BIOLOGICAL ANTIGRAVITATION. so does CAVITY STRUCTURAL EFFECT and i did some experements listed in the article and i tell you they worked.
    call it Metaphysics- it is not science, call it art if you like, but science community doesn't seem to be interested in the subject. I also dont doubt that he made the platform, he showed it in museum and let anybody who was there try it, it the fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by omon View Post
    i did some experements listed in the article and i tell you they worked.
    Which ones, what did you observe, what controls did you implement?
    Simple Machines in Higher Dimensions

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1010011010 View Post
    Which ones, what did you observe, what controls did you implement?
    i did the rols of film to move a straw in the glass jar,it did take me quite a few tries, but i saw it move. egg containers and book did those too ,they wont show you anything you have to feel it. moving hay on the blade i knew when i was 12(wasn't just me almost everyone who cut grass with that blade on a stick knows that, i had no idea why it moves never cared, but now it makes sence.
    in experements like this you don't implement any controls. like author wrote he tried numerous mesuring instuments none of them detected anything. just watch and feel you hands or face.
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