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    Quote Originally Posted by dalem
    List them please.
    As I posted before, the two main gravitational theories are relativistic and particle. In the Einsteinian relativistic theory, gravity is a product of the curvature in space time. For example, if we view four-dimensional space-time as a tarp or matress, then objects placed upon it will cause a depression. A planet or any mass causes a depression on the 'tarp' of space-time. This depression attracts other things (other planets, meteorites, etc.) towards it, just like a ping-pong ball on a mattress will roll into the depression caused by a bowling ball.

    However, this theory is incompatible with quantum mechanical theories, for reasons I can discuss if you want. Therefore, quantum mechanics has come up with its own particle interpretation of gravity. In this interpretation, gravity is actually transmitted via particles aptly named 'gravitons.'

    It remains to be seen how Einstein's ideas and quantum mechanics will be reconciled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julie
    I, myself have been deciding whether to visit the firearm threads and give my opinions and debate about them.
    [hysterically laughing]

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    agreeable enough. the sun is pulling members of the solar system into itself--get a grip though, it doesn't mean we'll be swallowed by a realistic 'ball of hell', but that doesn't mean we should do nothing--that's just sick... i didn't plan to grown up, study, have a job and a life just to be killed in the process. is someone out there that knows someone or some company or government trying to device a 'thing' that will protect people from intense heat? or live in a 'firey environment'?

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    ever heard of the saying 'there are things worst than death'? for the broader mind its only two choices-- 1) lethal, and 2) brutal. which would you pick? so there, there, we'll all die eventually the only problem is how? but come to think of it, i've been receiving rumors that since people already know the gene that causes death and the one that causes aging, it'll be only a few years that someone will know how to 'control' or more, 'remove' that property of the human DNA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niigata_lin
    ever heard of the saying 'there are things worst than death'? for the broader mind its only two choices-- 1) lethal, and 2) brutal. which would you pick? so there, there, we'll all die eventually the only problem is how? but come to think of it, i've been receiving rumors that since people already know the gene that causes death and the one that causes aging, it'll be only a few years that someone will know how to 'control' or more, 'remove' that property of the human DNA.
    Are you having a conversation with yourself You're wasting electrons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by niigata_lin
    ever heard of the saying 'there are things worst than death'? for the broader mind its only two choices-- 1) lethal, and 2) brutal. which would you pick? so there, there, we'll all die eventually the only problem is how? but come to think of it, i've been receiving rumors that since people already know the gene that causes death and the one that causes aging, it'll be only a few years that someone will know how to 'control' or more, 'remove' that property of the human DNA.
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    arguing are we?

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    dalem, don't bother. There is no point in arguing with somebody like this. Just chuckle quietly to yourself, shake your head in sadness, and know that there are some people that are just not able to see the world but as through a glass, darkly.
    you guys really need to pull things together. let's get this straight, k? global warming is real--the cause? it's natural. why are 'we' being connected as the cause of this? simple. it is a necessity for men to use things to live. for ex. the fuel we use in our cars. the exhaust it produce produces chemicals that helps warm the air more and even is slowly destroying the...layer-something(stupid memory gap--). but the point is, global warming is natural and happens cuz if you must know the sun 'the ultimate source of heat' of the solar system, is gradually pulling us into it because of its 'tremendous' gravity force--and that fact contributes to the idea that the earth's climate is warming up. 'we're' just contributing to that fact ofcourse because of some pollutions and things we do...

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    ha-ha-ha

    Quote Originally Posted by shek
    Are you having a conversation with yourself You're wasting electrons.
    ha-ha, right. i'm talking to my shadow in the net... honestly, you guys are kind'a... i don't know... confusing? the earth must have swallowed me out of my knowing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niigata_lin
    ha-ha, right. i'm talking to my shadow in the net... honestly, you guys are kind'a... i don't know... confusing? the earth must have swallowed me out of my knowing.
    You're now using the reply button which allows us to figure out what point you're trying to debate. It's a start.

    As far as your ozone layer argument, it's solved. Done deal. We've stopped the production of CFCs and the ozone layer is healing as we speak.

    As far as greenhouse gases, I've yet to see anybody post anything that demonstrates a causal correlation with rising temperatures on earth. I've seen a lot of hot air, but nothing that I can see with my own two eyes and interpret the data and then agree or disagree based on the correct statistical interpretations. In other words, the earth has its own cycles that we still don't fully understand, and to claim the sky is falling because temperatures are rising without demonstrating causation is irresponsible IMO.
    "So little pains do the vulgar take in the investigation of truth, accepting readily the first story that comes to hand." Thucydides 1.20.3

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    nothing is at it seems

    Quote Originally Posted by shek
    You're now using the reply button which allows us to figure out what point you're trying to debate. It's a start.

    As far as your ozone layer argument, it's solved. Done deal. We've stopped the production of CFCs and the ozone layer is healing as we speak.

    As far as greenhouse gases, I've yet to see anybody post anything that demonstrates a causal correlation with rising temperatures on earth. I've seen a lot of hot air, but nothing that I can see with my own two eyes and interpret the data and then agree or disagree based on the correct statistical interpretations. In other words, the earth has its own cycles that we still don't fully understand, and to claim the sky is falling because temperatures are rising without demonstrating causation is irresponsible IMO.
    get this straight, you won't believe tell you see? ever tried burning ice..? anyway, that's beside the point. what i'm trying to convey here is that 'global warming' is a natural phenomena and yes, humans contribute to the 'speeding' of the process-- not 'causing' it, gets?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shek
    You're now using the reply button which allows us to figure out what point you're trying to debate. It's a start.

    As far as your ozone layer argument, it's solved. Done deal. We've stopped the production of CFCs and the ozone layer is healing as we speak.

    As far as greenhouse gases, I've yet to see anybody post anything that demonstrates a causal correlation with rising temperatures on earth. I've seen a lot of hot air, but nothing that I can see with my own two eyes and interpret the data and then agree or disagree based on the correct statistical interpretations. In other words, the earth has its own cycles that we still don't fully understand, and to claim the sky is falling because temperatures are rising without demonstrating causation is irresponsible IMO.
    and there's the idea that i don't remember saying something like 'the sky is falling'... you must have confused me with someone else--and like i said, you guys can be confusing but interesting to argue...

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    Quote Originally Posted by niigata_lin
    get this straight, you won't believe tell you see? ever tried burning ice..? anyway, that's beside the point. what i'm trying to convey here is that 'global warming' is a natural phenomena and yes, humans contribute to the 'speeding' of the process-- not 'causing' it, gets?
    In this instance, causal is specific terminology that refers to demonstrating that not only is there a correlation, but that you know the direction of the correlation. Reread my post so you can comprehend that it is referring to your "speeding" effect. Also, it's "get it?", not "gets?", unless you wish to sound stupid.

    With reading comprehension behind, care to share a study with the models that statistically demonstrate this speeding effect and the causal evidence? I'm not talking a Wikipedia article or something from Newsweek or Time or some other periodical, but something that you'd find in a scientific journal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by niigata_lin
    and there's the idea that i don't remember saying something like 'the sky is falling'... you must have confused me with someone else--and like i said, you guys can be confusing but interesting to argue...
    The ice is melting . . . The sky is falling . . . It's getting too damned hot in here! It's all the same thing. I've yet to see any evidence offered in this forum by any of the global warming supporters that is based on proven statistics.
    "So little pains do the vulgar take in the investigation of truth, accepting readily the first story that comes to hand." Thucydides 1.20.3

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    natural heating/warming of earth

    Quote Originally Posted by shek
    You're now using the reply button which allows us to figure out what point you're trying to debate. It's a start.

    As far as your ozone layer argument, it's solved. Done deal. We've stopped the production of CFCs and the ozone layer is healing as we speak.

    As far as greenhouse gases, I've yet to see anybody post anything that demonstrates a causal correlation with rising temperatures on earth. I've seen a lot of hot air, but nothing that I can see with my own two eyes and interpret the data and then agree or disagree based on the correct statistical interpretations. In other words, the earth has its own cycles that we still don't fully understand, and to claim the sky is falling because temperatures are rising without demonstrating causation is irresponsible IMO.
    just want to say something about 'presenting the facts'. fact #1, the sun is a star. fact #2, all stars are giant balls of fire. fact #3, fire produces heat. fact #4, heat (fire) particles (e.g. oxygen, blah-blah-blah--you know the idea) produces attraction between 'others'. fact #5, the sun is the center of the solar system. fact#6, it acts as the fire attracting all its planet members. fact #6, since it has tremendous amout of gravity power, it attracts all its members into itself. fact#7, if you must know, the previous i've said happens 'very' gradually--you can't expect to see that 'start and finish' in front of your eyes, do you? fact#8, that's why global warming happens naturally, aside from the fact that the core of the earth is rotating quite unlike from how it used to be (but you wouldn't want to see that now and go pass the crust and the mantle do you?) and fact #9, we are partly to blame for the 'speeding of the process' because of 'needed' circumstances, are we? I'll leave you to think of what those 'needed' circumstances are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niigata_lin
    just want to say something about 'presenting the facts'. fact #1, the sun is a star. fact #2, all stars are giant balls of fire. fact #3, fire produces heat. fact #4, heat (fire) particles (e.g. oxygen, blah-blah-blah--you know the idea) produces attraction between 'others'. fact #5, the sun is the center of the solar system. fact#6, it acts as the fire attracting all its planet members. fact #6, since it has tremendous amout of gravity power, it attracts all its members into itself. fact#7, if you must know, the previous i've said happens 'very' gradually--you can't expect to see that 'start and finish' in front of your eyes, do you? fact#8, that's why global warming happens naturally, aside from the fact that the core of the earth is rotating quite unlike from how it used to be (but you wouldn't want to see that now and go pass the crust and the mantle do you?) and fact #9, we are partly to blame for the 'speeding of the process' because of 'needed' circumstances, are we? I'll leave you to think of what those 'needed' circumstances are.
    Fact #1 = Strawman
    Fact #2 = Strawman
    Fact #3 = Strawman
    Fact #4 = Strawman
    Fact #5 = Strawman
    Fact #6 = Strawman
    Fact #7 = Strawman
    Fact #8 = Strawman
    Fact #9 = Not a fact, no evidence introduced to establish that it is a fact.

    You wasted a lot of time on a worthless post.
    "So little pains do the vulgar take in the investigation of truth, accepting readily the first story that comes to hand." Thucydides 1.20.3

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