Thread: Turin Shroud

Who told you Jesus was Arab? That particular piece land had contact with white people for a millenium before Christ,starting with the Sea Peoples.Debates like these aside,you believe in stranger things than God.

Originally Posted by Mihais

Who told you Jesus was Arab? That particular piece land had contact with white people for a millenium before Christ,starting with the Sea Peoples.Debates like these aside,you believe in stranger things than God.

Birthplace / parents/ besides that his real name was Brian / yup I believe in alien life out there , but ok then I yield to you , he was a boat person , cuda been a sky boat

Here's a simple thing,IMO,theology aside(I don't have much use for it,although I like listening smart men talking about it).There's nothing fundamentally changed if aliens are found.There's plenty space for God in this Universe and the basic laws are universal,not only for this world.Aliens can be our God(s).But if they turned us in a certain direction,who turns them?There's something above them and his name is irrelevant.

Me out of this.

Originally Posted by Mihais

Here's a simple thing,IMO,theology aside(I don't have much use for it,although I like listening smart men talking about it).There's nothing fundamentally changed if aliens are found.There's plenty space for God in this Universe and the basic laws are universal,not only for this world.Aliens can be our God(s).But if they turned us in a certain direction,who turns them?There's something above them and his name is irrelevant.

Me out of this.

If ifs and and's were pots and pans huh I didnt mean this to get into this sort of debate , only if it was a fake or not (shroud that is )

Sorry.I'm still dizzy from last night.Gotta get drunk again,to let loose dizziness.

Supernatural: This means we can't explain it with our natural science. There are many things in Heaven and Earth that we don't have explainations for, even things that we consider natural. Our science has advanced far, and quickly, perhaps in our lives; we will have more answers. I am confident that many things will never be explained.

Originally Posted by USSWisconsin

Supernatural: This means we can't explain it with our natural science. There are many things in Heaven and Earth that we don't have explainations for, even things that we consider natural. Our science has advanced far, and quickly, perhaps in our lives; we will have more answers. I am confident that many things will never be explained.

"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy"

After proving the shroud is real, someone will have to prove the image is Jesus. That's will be near impossible.

Here's a good compendium of arguments and counter arguments to feast on.

The Shroud of Turin's Strange Coating of Saccharides Turned Brown

There were documentaries on this and all concluded they can not conclude if it is real or fake

I think the people who believe it is Jesus's burial shroud would be happy if the tests show it could be real - that it originated from the correct period. Proving that it is really that specific shroud would be almost as difficult as proving God is real - it's some thing that requires faith.

I don't think any new tests were made to make better claims then here

Good post Dok

Originally Posted by JAD_333

After proving the shroud is real, someone will have to prove the image is Jesus. That's will be near impossible.

Here's a good compendium of arguments and counter arguments to feast on.

The Shroud of Turin's Strange Coating of Saccharides Turned Brown

But carbon dating tests indicated that the shroud is from around 1200 AD.

Originally Posted by lemontree

But carbon dating tests indicated that the shroud is from around 1200 AD.

It wasn't always behind glass. Apparently pilgrims, for centuries, lit candles at the base of the shroud, pumping it full of middle-aged soot. And there was at least one fire in the church where the shroud was located.

Of all the religious "relics", the shroud has to be one of the most interesting and likely of the bunch.