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    Great Ball Of Fire!

    The Sun Also Sets
    By INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY | Posted Thursday, February 07, 2008 4:20 PM PT

    Climate Change: Not every scientist is part of Al Gore's mythical "consensus." Scientists worried about a new ice age seek funding to better observe something bigger than your SUV — the sun.


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    Back in 1991, before Al Gore first shouted that the Earth was in the balance, the Danish Meteorological Institute released a study using data that went back centuries that showed that global temperatures closely tracked solar cycles.

    To many, those data were convincing. Now, Canadian scientists are seeking additional funding for more and better "eyes" with which to observe our sun, which has a bigger impact on Earth's climate than all the tailpipes and smokestacks on our planet combined.

    And they're worried about global cooling, not warming.

    Kenneth Tapping, a solar researcher and project director for Canada's National Research Council, is among those looking at the sun for evidence of an increase in sunspot activity.

    Solar activity fluctuates in an 11-year cycle. But so far in this cycle, the sun has been disturbingly quiet. The lack of increased activity could signal the beginning of what is known as a Maunder Minimum, an event which occurs every couple of centuries and can last as long as a century.

    Such an event occurred in the 17th century. The observation of sunspots showed extraordinarily low levels of magnetism on the sun, with little or no 11-year cycle.

    This solar hibernation corresponded with a period of bitter cold that began around 1650 and lasted, with intermittent spikes of warming, until 1715. Frigid winters and cold summers during that period led to massive crop failures, famine and death in Northern Europe.

    Tapping reports no change in the sun's magnetic field so far this cycle and warns that if the sun remains quiet for another year or two, it may indicate a repeat of that period of drastic cooling of the Earth, bringing massive snowfall and severe weather to the Northern Hemisphere.

    Tapping oversees the operation of a 60-year-old radio telescope that he calls a "stethoscope for the sun." But he and his colleagues need better equipment.

    In Canada, where radio-telescopic monitoring of the sun has been conducted since the end of World War II, a new instrument, the next-generation solar flux monitor, could measure the sun's emissions more rapidly and accurately.

    As we have noted many times, perhaps the biggest impact on the Earth's climate over time has been the sun.

    For instance, researchers at the Max Planck Institute for Solar Research in Germany report the sun has been burning more brightly over the last 60 years, accounting for the 1 degree Celsius increase in Earth's temperature over the last 100 years.

    R. Timothy Patterson, professor of geology and director of the Ottawa-Carleton Geoscience Center of Canada's Carleton University, says that "CO2 variations show little correlation with our planet's climate on long, medium and even short time scales."

    Rather, he says, "I and the first-class scientists I work with are consistently finding excellent correlations between the regular fluctuations of the sun and earthly climate. This is not surprising. The sun and the stars are the ultimate source of energy on this planet."

    Patterson, sharing Tapping's concern, says: "Solar scientists predict that, by 2020, the sun will be starting into its weakest Schwabe cycle of the past two centuries, likely leading to unusually cool conditions on Earth."

    "Solar activity has overpowered any effect that CO2 has had before, and it most likely will again," Patterson says. "If we were to have even a medium-sized solar minimum, we could be looking at a lot more bad effects than 'global warming' would have had."

    In 2005, Russian astronomer Khabibullo Abdusamatov made some waves — and not a few enemies in the global warming "community" — by predicting that the sun would reach a peak of activity about three years from now, to be accompanied by "dramatic changes" in temperatures.

    A Hoover Institution Study a few years back examined historical data and came to a similar conclusion.

    "The effects of solar activity and volcanoes are impossible to miss. Temperatures fluctuated exactly as expected, and the pattern was so clear that, statistically, the odds of the correlation existing by chance were one in 100," according to Hoover fellow Bruce Berkowitz.

    The study says that "try as we might, we simply could not find any relationship between industrial activity, energy consumption and changes in global temperatures."

    The study concludes that if you shut down all the world's power plants and factories, "there would not be much effect on temperatures."

    But if the sun shuts down, we've got a problem. It is the sun, not the Earth, that's hanging in the balance.



    This one's for Dalem...

    More evidense for the SUN being what's getting us all heated up.
    Stay tuned; When the SUN COOLS so will we.







    Ivan
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    Hee hee!

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    Dale,

    I'm in the middle of a very interesting book called "So Cold a Sky" by Karl Bohnak.He writes about a Maunder Minimum period between 1650 and 1710 that was a significant contributing cause of the "Little Ice Age"of the period between 1300 and 1900 AD.This followed a time period in Europe of exceptionally mild weather when the Vikings settled Greenland and the Danes settled Iceland.During the height of the LIA in 1695 you could climb the hightest mountain in Iceland and not see open water.

    During the Maunder Minimum stated above,in one 30 yr period only 50 sunspots were observed;during the past 100yrs a 30yr period would yield 40 to 50 thousand sunspots.Appears that no matter what we puny humans do or don't do the Sun is the final arbiter of our climate .
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    Hmmmm. Perhaps the Awards Committee of the Nobel Institute might contemplate withdrawing the honour from that nice Mr Gore?
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    I guess this makes Gore a lying son of a b....ch?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exarecr View Post
    I guess this makes Gore a lying son of a b....ch?
    It sure contributes. It's probably just one piece of it, and we still don't know exactly how insolation affects the climate engine either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exarecr View Post
    I guess this makes Gore a lying son of a b....ch?
    It took this article for you to realize that

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    Which part of the sun pun did iI fail to communicate?

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    According to Newsweek, the sun does not affect the earth's climate...

    Dale saw that quiz. I went back to that Newsweek page and tried to take a screenshot but it was taken down already.
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