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    Big Bang at the atomic lab after scientists get their maths wrong

    Big Bang at the atomic lab after scientists get their maths wrong
    Jonathan Leake, Science Editor

    A £2 billion project to answer some of the biggest mysteries of the universe has been delayed by months after scientists building it made basic errors in their mathematical calculations.


    The mistakes led to an explosion deep in the tunnel at the Cern particle accelerator complex near Geneva in Switzerland. It lifted a 20-ton magnet off its mountings, filling a tunnel with helium gas and forcing an evacuation.

    It means that 24 magnets located all around the 17-mile circular accelerator must now be stripped down and repaired or upgraded. The failure is a huge embarrassment for Fermilab, the American national physics laboratory that built the magnets and the anchor system that secured them to the machine.

    It appears Fermilab made elementary mistakes in the design of the magnets and their anchors that made them insecure once the system was operational.

    Last week an apparently furious and embarrassed Pier Oddone, director of Fermilab, wrote to his staff saying they had caused “a pratfall on the world stage”. He said: “We are dumb-founded that we missed some very simple balance of forces. Not only was it missed in the engineering design but also in the four engineering reviews carried out between 1998 and 2002 before launching the construction of the magnets.”

    The machine, the Large Hadron Collider (LHC), aims to recreate the conditions of the Big Bang, when the universe is thought to have exploded into existence about 14 billion years ago. However, the November start-up may now have to be delayed until next spring.

    Dr Lyn Evans, who leads the accelerator construction project at Cern, the European organisation for nuclear research, said the explosion had been potentially very dangerous.

    “There was a hell of a bang, the tunnel housing the machine filled with helium and dust and we had to call in the fire brigade to evacuate the place,” he said. “The people working on the test were frightened to death but they were all in a safe place so no-one was hurt.” An investigation by Cern researchers found “fundamental” flaws that caused the explosion, close to the CMS detector, one of the LHC’s most important experiments.

    The accelerator is designed to smash together protons, a kind of sub-atomic particle, at near light speed. The hope is that such collisions will generate exotic new particles — especially the so-called Higgs boson which, theorists predict, could help explain key properties of matter, such as how it acquires mass and, hence, weight.

    The LHC itself comprises two pipes, each containing a beam of protons travelling at near-light speed that are steered around the circular tunnel by powerful magnets. Such magnets are “superconducting” meaning they and the whole LHC are cooled to below -268C, using pipes filled with liquid helium.

    The two proton beams travel in opposite directions but, at various points around the ring, their pipes merge, allowing the protons in each beam to collide.

    However, since the thickness of each beam is less than that of a human hair, they have to be focused. This is the task of a second set of magnets, and it is these that were under test at the time of the explosion.

    Coincidentally, Fermilab stands to gain most from delays at Cern. Its researchers also operate a rival but less powerful particle accelerator, the Tevatron.

    Fermilab staff are pushing the Tevatron to ever-higher energies hoping that they might find the Higgs boson before the LHC switches on. An LHC researcher said: “Ironically, this delay could be all they need.”
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    A very foolish mistake, brings to mind other elementary mistakes other top scientists made that messed up other projects.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wkllaw View Post
    A very foolish mistake, brings to mind other elementary mistakes other top scientists made that messed up other projects.
    They just didn't hire the right PR guy.

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    My favorite Big Brain / Big Mistake story was the orbital calc done for the Mars Climate Orbiter that crashed due to one set of calculations being done in imperial unit, and another being done in metric units.

    D'OH!

    Imagine the exchange in Flight Control, as it becomes apparent...

    Data Monitor: 150,000 AGL; we're lookin' nominal, Flight.

    Flight Director: Roger, Data. Monitors, are we 'go' for orbit?

    Flight Monitor Lead: Count off. Monitor One?

    Flight Monitor One: All engines online and in the green. Go!

    Flight Monitor Lead: Roger; Monitor Two?

    Flight Monitor Two: Instumentation is reading and telemetry is five-by-five; GO!

    Flight Monitor Lead: Copy; Monitor Three?

    Flight Monitor Three: We're on glide slope and navigation is right down the gut. Three is 'go'.

    Flight Monitor Lead: Roger, and Flight, Monitors are all 'go'.

    Flight Director: Copy, Monitor. Alright, here we go, orbit insertion engine burn for 102 seconds, start your count, Payload.

    Flight Payload: Velocity is reading is a hair high, so we're now engines-lit for 104 seconds, commencing in twenty seconds.

    Flight Director: Concur; 104 seconds of all-retro burn. Monitors, adjust for increased fuel ependiture and Weight-and-Balance? Get your figures to me and Data before engine cut-off.

    Weight-and-Balance: Just put it in, it's on your console.

    Flight Director: Good man, got it. [pause] Three seconds...Data, give me your altitude again.

    Data Monitor: Steady as a rock at 150,000 feet AGL.

    Flight Director: Meters.

    Data Monitor: Sir?

    Flight Director: Commence retro burn on all engines. METERS, Data; you said 'feet'.

    Flight Monitor One: All engines burnin' nominal; speed's comin' off and we're committed.

    Data Monitor: Ummm...

    Flight Director: Getting some noise in my telemetry, Monitor Two. Data, you okay? You look kinda greenish-pale...

    Monitors Two and Three are talking over each other: Telemetry is going off-line... // Nav here, Boss, and I think the Orbiter is going over the Martian horizon about an hour earlier than... // Lost telemetry... // Nav data is corrupted and we're losing the predicted flight path...

    Flight Monitor Lead: Settle down, fellas. Flight, we got a problem, here.

    Flight Director: What the hell...? Data! Get your head outta the trash can and get me a work-around the command link before we lose line-of-sight! Payload, dammit, stop the engine burn, NOW, or we won't have the chance later!

    Flight Payload: Negative response, chief; she's over the horizon and on the blind side. She'll follow her last command: 104 seconds of full retro burn.

    [Stunned silence in the Command & Flight Control Room, as panic starts to creep in...]

    Data Monitor [weakly]: It was ALWAYS in FEET! Who changed it to METERS?

    Flight Director: The engineers said they were supposed to convert...I thought they told everybody...you know, about the change to meters...we trained on the sim for about five months...and we never NOTICED THIS?!?! [rising to a scream]
    Hey, that was fun to write...
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    he he reminds me of a story i heard once When america went into space they spent millions of dollars on a developing a pen that will work in zero gravity,when asking the russians what they used the reply was pencils.

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