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    sink or swim?

    Global warming could make large areas of world uninhabitable
    November 18, 2004

    A leading New Zealand scientist warned yesterday that global warming would make large areas of the world uninhabitable by the end of the century unless the international community co-operated to solve the problem.

    Professor John Barrett said that, after studying the Antarctic and its climate for 40 years, he was part of a huge community of scientists who are alarmed about climate change and its potential effects on the planet.

    "We know from our knowledge of the ancient past that if we continue our present growth path we are facing the end of civilisation as we know it - not in millions of years, or even millennia, but by the end of this century," he said in Christchurch.

    He was speaking after being awarded one of New Zealand's highest scientific awards for his Antarctic research.

    An advance report of his speech which wrongly had him warning that the entire human race faced extinction by the end of the century attracted widespread attention and he tried to correct it in radio and television interviews.

    But he retained his doomsday scenario, telling a Radio New Zealand interviewer who asked if he was predicting that large numbers of people around the world would be wiped out: "I think there is a better than even chance that will be the case if we do nothing about it."

    Professor Barrett identified Europe, the American state of Florida and low-lying countries such as Bangladesh as areas most likely to become uninhabitable. New Zealand was in a "rather fortunate" location, he said, and would be less affected than Western Europe.

    Asked if this meant New Zealanders could end up being one of the few populations left on the planet by the turn of the century, he replied: "Yes, I'd say that's even likely if we don't do anything."

    He said the globe was heading by the end of the century for a climate three or four degrees warmer than now, conditions that last existed 30 to 40 million years ago before there were ice sheets in the Antarctic.

    Asked what would actually happen, he said: "I'll tell you what happened in the past. The last change of that magnitude was quite recent - 20,000 years ago ice caps covered large parts of Europe, sea level was 120 metres lower and then temperatures rose five degrees and the ice caps melted, oceans rose. The climate stabilised about 10,000 years ago and it's been pretty stable ever since.

    "Now they're talking about temperatures rising three or four degrees and of course there isn't as much ice to melt but the climate will be profoundly different. Civilisation will be very different."

    He said one of the reasons for speaking out was in the hope that people would understand more about the issue and press their political leaders for an international commitment to an effective solution.

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    Nah, conditions are such that severe global warming CANNOT happen...

    Instead, the melting of the ice caps will interrupt the trans-oceanic conveyor belts which moderate global temperatures, and a new ice age will ensue over roughly fifty-years' time. So, while global warming is a red herring, we're still screwed. Buy skis!
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    Wasn't that a movie plot?

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    yeh, 'day after tommorrow' but the science was rubbish.
    horrido's closer with "Instead, the melting of the ice caps will interrupt the trans-oceanic conveyor belts which moderate global temperatures, and a new ice age will ensue over roughly fifty-years' time"
    best theory i've heard: the gulf stream is currently diverted from its northward course by the arctic ice cap and warns the UK & northern europe. without the ice cap it would continue to flow north and warm siberia instead. result glaciation over northern europe.

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    "A leading New Zealand scientist"

    In the 50's scientists said we'd be flying in cars instead of driving them. While global warming is a problem, most "scientists" should be taken with a grain of salt.

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    Huh?

    Scientists are crazy, they've been wrong all along when they make predicitions. They should "discover" things, not predict things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smisyllomevoli
    "A leading New Zealand scientist"

    In the 50's scientists said we'd be flying in cars instead of driving them. While global warming is a problem, most "scientists" should be taken with a grain of salt.
    http://www.israel21c.org/bin/en.jsp?...gy&enVersion=0

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    Not a prototype but rather a mass thing, but i see your point

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    Interesting topic, kind of off topic but anyways heres a personal relation;

    When I was in 9th grade, my Earth Science teacher told us that if their was a huge earthquake in west Africa that it would create a huge tidal wave and flood the entire eastern seaboard of the US. Now im not sure if this is true or not, but it sure does sound scary. Ive tried to find links on this because according to her it was on a tv show, havent found anything yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smisyllomevoli
    "A leading New Zealand scientist"

    In the 50's scientists said we'd be flying in cars instead of driving them. While global warming is a problem, most "scientists" should be taken with a grain of salt.
    When I was a kid, the problem was going to be "global cooling". Take every prediction with a grain of salt, but it is pretty obvious pollution is a problem. I wish the scientists would spend their time finding solutions, instead of constantly telling us that what we allready know is killing us, is going to kill us eventually.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisF202
    Interesting topic, kind of off topic but anyways heres a personal relation;

    When I was in 9th grade, my Earth Science teacher told us that if their was a huge earthquake in west Africa that it would create a huge tidal wave and flood the entire eastern seaboard of the US. Now im not sure if this is true or not, but it sure does sound scary. Ive tried to find links on this because according to her it was on a tv show, havent found anything yet.
    here you go

    http://www.disasterrelief.org/Disasters/010831tsunami/

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    If I were a terrorist with a nuke, I'd plant it in the Canary Islands to slough off the side of that volcano.


    Scientists DO know how to fix the problem: Reduce the human population to around 500 million individuals, globally. Unfortunately, through homogenizing species throughout the world and destroyed ecosystems, it's going to take hundreds of thousands of years to recover, if ever. Why I'm a major supporter of ice-ages and the urban renewel that they bring.
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