U.S. Missile Shield Won't Work

**Ray** · 03 Apr 06,, 20:50

Why will it not work?

**Bill** · 04 Apr 06,, 20:25

Originally Posted by Ray

Why will it not work?

Shooting rifles at MIRVs?

LOL....hey, it could work. The odds are probably about 1000000000000000:1, but it IS possible.

**2DREZQ** · 06 Apr 06,, 05:48

Originally Posted by M21Sniper

Shooting rifles at MIRVs?

LOL....hey, it could work. The odds are probably about 1000000000000000:1, but it IS possible.

And the odds or surviving a Thermonuclear detonation in your neighborhood?

Whattavi got to lose?

**Bill** · 06 Apr 06,, 09:20

Originally Posted by 2DREZQ

And the odds or surviving a Thermonuclear detonation in your neighborhood?

Whattavi got to lose?

Precisely.

Of course whether or not a rifle bullet would actually penetrate the re-entry shielding...

LOL

**2DREZQ** · 09 Apr 06,, 01:01

Then the last evidence that I was on the planet will be my silhouette, rifle to my shoulder, burned into the concrete...I intend to go down facing the grim reaper...

**~~glow~~** · 10 Apr 06,, 23:30

Originally Posted by M21Sniper

There's only one way to find out if it 'really' works, and hopefully we never will.

It only needs to shoot down 2-3 weapons, that is what it's designed for. So if each of the minuteman intercepters is actually 20% effective then the whole system does it's job.

It's actually called testing to see if something really works.
Would you except a bulletproof vest to be 20% effective?

**Nagalfar** · 15 Apr 06,, 02:51

I think it would be better to know who these "experts" are.. and see who they work for, and what they area of expertise.. and what their scientific history is.. are they biologists and neuroscience "scientists"?

Seems I remember the squids having a pretty good ability to intercept incoming missiles with their block systems missiles and Phalanx systems works pretty well for those that get past the block system missiles, with a ICBM you would have more heads up (in the matter of time to intercept. lift off blooms), granted the intercept speeds are much greater with ICBMs, that makes the intercept software more involved, and the math different.. to say we can't do it, where is the basis of fact they use to say it cant be done, we can look at the Navy and know missile defense is real.

Let's look at worst case, even if a system is only 20% effective, how much is 20% of your saved cities and the people being intact worth?

**The Chap** · 28 May 06,, 04:58

If anyone would care to hunt down books suggested by my good self they would shut up upon this issue. The answer is yes.

Lazy shits. Hmmph.

**Bill** · 28 May 06,, 05:18

Originally Posted by glow

It's actually called testing to see if something really works.
Would you except a bulletproof vest to be 20% effective?

Any bullet proof vest only covers about 40% of your body....so no matter how good the rating, it is only at best 40% effective.

Which is of course infinitely more effective than NOTHING.

**Bill** · 28 May 06,, 05:18

Originally Posted by 2DREZQ

Then the last evidence that I was on the planet will be my silhouette, rifle to my shoulder, burned into the concrete...I intend to go down facing the grim reaper...

You da man bro.

**~~dalem~~** · 28 May 06,, 05:34

Originally Posted by glow

It's actually called testing to see if something really works.
Would you except a bulletproof vest to be 20% effective?

Vs. wearing nothing but my own birthday suit as protection? You bet I would. And so would you unless a Horta ate your brain.

-dale

**HistoricalDavid** · 28 May 06,, 12:48

Originally Posted by glow

It's actually called testing to see if something really works.
Would you except a bulletproof vest to be 20% effective?

In this case, you have multiple bulletproof vests.

**~~Tokyo Drifter~~** · 18 Oct 06,, 17:30

Originally Posted by lurker

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It's all about lucrative contracts - huge waste in this whole son of starwars nonsense and wastes of over a hundred billion dollars being pumped into space pork kodiak, flawed ship intercepts, and greely but someday it might be able to take down a few IRBMs with a good enough success rate

**highsea** · 18 Oct 06,, 17:39

Well, it scored a direct hit last month...

U.S. missile defense interceptor hits target in test over Pacific

**Swift Sword** · 18 Oct 06,, 20:41

Originally Posted by Tokyo Drifter

It's all about lucrative contracts - huge waste in this whole son of starwars nonsense and wastes of over a hundred billion dollars being pumped into space pork kodiak, flawed ship intercepts, and greely but someday it might be able to take down a few IRBMs with a good enough success rate

T.D.,

Yep, there is money to be made in missle defense; been there, done that since 1998

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A good missle defense portfolio includes Boeing (BA on the NYSE; lead contractor), Raytheon (RTN on the NYSE), Lockheed Martin (LMT on the NYSE) and Orbital Sciences (ORB on the NYSE).

The really big guys are cost prohibitive but there is still some room to profit on Orbital.

I almost took profits on Orbital when it reached 4x what I bought it for but they have a respectable backlog of orders in the bag so I refrained. For a piece of the NMD ham, I would think Orbital is a good place to be at this point.

Moving beyond the handsome sums made/to be made on NMD at the Public's expense, do not discount the potential effectiveness of a limited system with multiple layers of architecture.

Shooting down missles is not exactly a difficult technical or tactical hurdle; the trouble is in systems integration and sabotage related to systems integration, an area in which the U.S. is exceptionally vulnerable.

The money being pissed down the ABL hole is not exactly well spent but some of the other aspects of TBMD/NMD are here, now, potentially quite effective and modestly priced by comparison.

Regards,

William