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    Intelligent falling????

    Evangelical Scientists Refute Gravity With New 'Intelligent Falling' Theory

    August 17, 2005 | Issue 41•33

    KANSAS CITY, KS—As the debate over the teaching of evolution in public schools continues, a new controversy over the science curriculum arose Monday in this embattled Midwestern state. Scientists from the Evangelical Center For Faith-Based Reasoning are now asserting that the long-held "theory of gravity" is flawed, and they have responded to it with a new theory of Intelligent Falling.

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    Rev. Gabriel Burdett (left) explains Intelligent Falling.

    "Things fall not because they are acted upon by some gravitational force, but because a higher intelligence, 'God' if you will, is pushing them down," said Gabriel Burdett, who holds degrees in education, applied Scripture, and physics from Oral Roberts University.

    Burdett added: "Gravity—which is taught to our children as a law—is founded on great gaps in understanding. The laws predict the mutual force between all bodies of mass, but they cannot explain that force. Isaac Newton himself said, 'I suspect that my theories may all depend upon a force for which philosophers have searched all of nature in vain.' Of course, he is alluding to a higher power."

    Founded in 1987, the ECFR is the world's leading institution of evangelical physics, a branch of physics based on literal interpretation of the Bible.

    According to the ECFR paper published simultaneously this week in the International Journal Of Science and the adolescent magazine God's Word For Teens!, there are many phenomena that cannot be explained by secular gravity alone, including such mysteries as how angels fly, how Jesus ascended into Heaven, and how Satan fell when cast out of Paradise.

    The ECFR, in conjunction with the Christian Coalition and other Christian conservative action groups, is calling for public-school curriculums to give equal time to the Intelligent Falling theory. They insist they are not asking that the theory of gravity be banned from schools, but only that students be offered both sides of the issue "so they can make an informed decision."

    "We just want the best possible education for Kansas' kids," Burdett said.

    Proponents of Intelligent Falling assert that the different theories used by secular physicists to explain gravity are not internally consistent. Even critics of Intelligent Falling admit that Einstein's ideas about gravity are mathematically irreconcilable with quantum mechanics. This fact, Intelligent Falling proponents say, proves that gravity is a theory in crisis.

    "Let's take a look at the evidence," said ECFR senior fellow Gregory Lunsden."In Matthew 15:14, Jesus says, 'And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.' He says nothing about some gravity making them fall—just that they will fall. Then, in Job 5:7, we read, 'But mankind is born to trouble, as surely as sparks fly upwards.' If gravity is pulling everything down, why do the sparks fly upwards with great surety? This clearly indicates that a conscious intelligence governs all falling."

    Critics of Intelligent Falling point out that gravity is a provable law based on empirical observations of natural phenomena. Evangelical physicists, however, insist that there is no conflict between Newton's mathematics and Holy Scripture.

    "Closed-minded gravitists cannot find a way to make Einstein's general relativity match up with the subatomic quantum world," said Dr. Ellen Carson, a leading Intelligent Falling expert known for her work with the Kansan Youth Ministry. "They've been trying to do it for the better part of a century now, and despite all their empirical observation and carefully compiled data, they still don't know how."

    "Traditional scientists admit that they cannot explain how gravitation is supposed to work," Carson said. "What the gravity-agenda scientists need to realize is that 'gravity waves' and 'gravitons' are just secular words for 'God can do whatever He wants.'"

    Some evangelical physicists propose that Intelligent Falling provides an elegant solution to the central problem of modern physics.

    "Anti-falling physicists have been theorizing for decades about the 'electromagnetic force,' the 'weak nuclear force,' the 'strong nuclear force,' and so-called 'force of gravity,'" Burdett said. "And they tilt their findings toward trying to unite them into one force. But readers of the Bible have already known for millennia what this one, unified force is: His name is Jesus."

    LOL, fun stuff huh???

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    I had thought string theory had predicted the graviton, a massless particle.
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    String theory has been largely rolled up/bypassed by p-brane theory. There is no evidence that gravitons exist. The graviton is a hypothetical element, and remains totally unproven.

    "Given the widespread success of quantum theory in describing the basic forces in the universe except for gravity, it seemed only natural that the same methods would work well on gravity as well. Many attempts finally led to introduction of a so-far unseen graviton, which would work in a fashion somewhat similar to the photon, the gluon etc. It was hoped that this would quickly lead to a quantum gravity theory, although the mathematics became convoluted and no internally consistent theory has yet emerged."

    While the classical theory (i.e. the tree diagrams) and semiclassical corrections (one-loop diagrams) behaved as expected, the Feynman diagrams with two (or more) loops led to ultraviolet divergences - i.e. infinite results that could not be removed because the quantized general relativity was not renormalizable, unlike Quantum electrodynamics. In popular terms, the discreteness of quantum theory is not compatible with the smoothness of Einstein's general relativity. These problems, together with some conceptual puzzles, led many physicists to believe that a theory more complete than just general relativity must regulate the behavior near the Planck length. Superstring theory finally emerged as the most promising solution; it is the only known theory in which the quantum corrections of any order to graviton scattering are finite.

    String theory predicts the existence of gravitons and their well-defined interactions which represents one of its most important triumphs. A graviton in perturbative string theory is a closed string in a very particular low-energy vibrational state. The scattering of gravitons in string theory can also be computed from the correlation functions in conformal field theory, as dictated by the AdS/CFT correspondence, or from Matrix theory.

    An interesting feature of gravitons in string theory is that, as closed strings without endpoints, they would not be bound to branes and could move freely between them; this "leakage" of gravitons from our brane into higher-dimensional space could explain why gravity is such a weak force, and gravitons from other branes adjacent to our own could provide a potential explanation for dark matter. See brane cosmology for more details.

    It should be noted that there exist proposed quantum theories of gravity that do not predict a graviton; for instance, loop quantum gravity has no analogous particle.

    The above quote is from (shudder) Wikipedia.

    What IS certain is that Gravity remains a wholly unexplainable force of nature.
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    Quote Originally Posted by M21Sniper
    "Anti-falling physicists have been theorizing for decades about the 'electromagnetic force,' the 'weak nuclear force,' the 'strong nuclear force,' and so-called 'force of gravity,'" Burdett said. "And they tilt their findings toward trying to unite them into one force. But readers of the Bible have already known for millennia what this one, unified force is: His name is Jesus."
    Priceless quote!! Can some one give him a bacon??
    A grain of wheat eclipsed the sun of Adam !!

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    I love The Onion.

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    Heh, yeah, it is a pretty cool quote. And at this time, it's also as scientifically sound as the prospect of gravitons.

    Both theories are completely unproven.

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    So by logical extension, anything inexplicable is the work of God. Therefore scientists are the true priests of God, because they are trying to understand Gods mind and will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by parihaka
    So by logical extension, anything inexplicable is the work of God. Therefore scientists are the true priests of God, because they are trying to understand Gods mind and will.
    According to Deists.

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    Maybe we are all just "fallen angels" and just don't know it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by parihaka
    So by logical extension, anything inexplicable is the work of God. Therefore scientists are the true priests of God, because they are trying to understand Gods mind and will.
    Could be true. Could be a total falsehood.

    I aint the guy to ask. I don't have the answers...

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    Quote Originally Posted by M21Sniper
    The graviton is a hypothetical element, and remains totally unproven.
    Much like strings.



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    Its perfectly appropriate that the Theory of Intelligent Falling should be proposed. After all the main progenator of the Theory of Gravitation; Isaac Newton, wrote about 4 times as he did on Theology, than he did on science. Indeed in his time he was known more as a theolegan than as a scientist.

    Now if the Christian coalition can explain the "intelligent" part about the following law, everytime you take your significant other out, the weight of your wallet will reduce by inverse proportion to the time she spends with you.
    "Any relations in a social order will endure if there is infused into them some of that spirit of human sympathy, which qualifies life for immortality." ~ George William Russell

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