Leader

We're see...

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Bulgaroctonus

Indeed.

ZFBoxcar

Different IP addresses.

Leader

Well then. I was wrong

Expat Canuck

That was a tad harsh. I thought he was being a bit funny not to mention that historically we are up for another house cleaning.

Like my take on world hunger for example. Why bother, I mean if there are so many people that they can not feed themselves obviously there shoudn't be so many people there. Not to mention that we'd get a stronger gene pool. Survival of the fittest as they say.

Lugh

Um, yes... anyhow - ignoring the previous 15 posts of this thread and getting back to the last pertinent one quoted above... I say bravo. That is brilliant and, I am loathe to use the hated term, "out of the box" thinking.

I am not sure why, except the simple logic of defense of self, home and family, that you feel that such an epidemic would be best if inflicted upon the generally poor people of SE Asia and China. Im no fan of the Chinese Communist government and deeply despise what they did to Tibet, for one, but the fact remains that it is the first world, America at its lead, that effect vastly more damage to the natural environment that supports all of humanity.

Homo Sapiens will be controlled at some point in the future by the forces of nature as we continue to tip the scales out of balance. The most obese weight tipping that scale is, not so shockingly, America and its throwaway consumer culture.

Bird Flu? Works for me. Having studied ecology for a long time, I have noticed that this planet tends to operate on a systemic paradigm of balances. Sometimes the reaction to every action takes a long time to come along, but it always comes.

I cannot help but think that at some point, America and the first worlds rather egregious overuse and consumption of natural resources will bite us in our collective ass. I can only think that the poor Chinese Commies will be laughing their asses off, until they get theirs.

I digress. The point is - what goes around comes around, and that applies just as equally on the macro-global scale as it does the interpersonal relationship micro-scale.

Julie

Hey, hey...anything is possible.

Leader

I don't think I can express how little respect I have for that point of view.

Leader

"I digress. The point is - what goes around comes around, and that applies just as equally on the macro-global scale as it does the interpersonal relationship micro-scale."

Hey look it's one of those things that sounds true and is almost always false.

Bulgaroctonus

Thank you for you understanding of my position. In addition, Ice Hockey is back. Let the Devils reign victorious.

Lugh

You are obviously a bright person with exemplary debating skills! Provide some cogent points demonstrating how my statement merely sounds true, but in fact is not true... and is "almost always false".

An excellent starting point would be breaking down my statement into its composite elements and dismantling the logic therein. The coup de grace, of course, would be turning your deconstruction against my original supposition, thereby demonstrating superior telos.

Cheers.

Bulgaroctonus

I'm glad to encounter someone who can understand my opinions. Disease is an essential part of life, more fundamentally, death is a fundamental part of life. We cannot hope to keep up our exponential growth rate for long. Several scenarios can ensue.

1) Population growth can be controlled through education. People learn to stop having as many children and/or using birth control.

2) Disease can curtail population growth.

3) Catastrophes (i.e. nuclear war) can cause mass death.

4) Resources become to thin, and people starve to death.

Why not use 2) to our advantage and crush a potential enemy of the United States? Its like killing two birds with one stone.

Leader

How many criminals get away with their crimes? Most. Stalin's a great example. The biggest mass murder in history. When did he get his? He didn't, and if anyone had it coming it was him. If you look on the international stage, have England and France got theirs? No. Sure they aren't major powers anymore, but that doesn't make up for the billions of people they oppressed. We're still cleaning up their messes.

No thanks.

Leader

"Why not use 2) to our advantage and crush a potential enemy of the United States? Its like killing two birds with one stone."

Because it's morally wrong.

Bulgaroctonus

Aha! I have you now! Morals do not exist (see signature), and even if they did, I give them only a second's thought. Since when was world policy dictated by morals?