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Old 11-29-2006, 01:22 AM   #376 (permalink)
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Good. I hope it quadruples next year, and then when the glaciers advance down and eat the hippies the year after that, I will laugh.

"Ha ha ha ha!" I will laugh.

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Old 11-29-2006, 14:47 PM   #377 (permalink)
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Good. I hope it quadruples next year, and then when the glaciers advance down and eat the hippies the year after that, I will laugh.

"Ha ha ha ha!" I will laugh.

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I see your location has the word Heights in it, and presumably you will survive rising sea levels. The people you slime as Hippies could, just might, seek higher levels themselves. The Hippies are then going to be living nearer to you than they were previously. Much of the silt rich lower levels will be inundated with salt water, preventing their continued use for agriculture. More of the higher levels will have to be cultivated, even though they may be not as productive.But you will laugh? Astonishing.
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Old 11-29-2006, 15:03 PM   #378 (permalink)
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I see your location has the word Heights in it, and presumably you will survive rising sea levels. The people you slime as Hippies could, just might, seek higher levels themselves. The Hippies are then going to be living nearer to you than they were previously. Much of the silt rich lower levels will be inundated with salt water, preventing their continued use for agriculture. More of the higher levels will have to be cultivated, even though they may be not as productive.But you will laugh? Astonishing
1) Be unastonished. Read through the many global warming/climate threads in this forum and my opinions on the matter will be clear.

2) Note that I will be laughing because the hippies will be eaten by glaciers, not because I think they will be trying to grow lentils and weed in my back yard.

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Old 12-05-2006, 18:25 PM   #379 (permalink)
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So how about that global warming...I mean climate change?

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,234438,00.html

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ST. LOUIS — Temperatures rose to above-freezing in Missouri and Illinois Tuesday as thousands of residents remained without power after a major blackout caused by the first snowstorm of the winter season.

The number of deaths blamed on the storm that hit Thursday rose Monday to at least 23, with three more deaths reported in Missouri and one more in Illinois. The causes included weather-related traffic accidents, fires, carbon monoxide poisoning and exposure, officials said.

The St. Louis-based utility Ameren Corp. reported almost 190,000 homes and businesses still without power Tuesday in Illinois and Missouri.

The utility said it would be several more days before power is fully restored to the region.

"We've had some ice storms before. This one puts them to shame," said Ron Zdellar, vice president of energy for AmerenUE, who has worked for the company for 35 years.

Utility crews were working 18-hour shifts, especially in the biggest problem areas, where ice coated roads and utility poles. Workers from 14 states were helping.

The storm also caused widespread power outages elsewhere as it blew snow and ice from Texas to Michigan last week and battered parts of the Northeast with thunderstorms and high winds.

The combination of low temperatures, downed power lines, ice-covered poles and brittle tree limbs hampered repair efforts.

"We knew when this thing hit, it would be far different from anything we've seen before," Zdellar said.

Some people slept in shelters during their search for warm surroundings. The Missouri National Guard was sent to the St. Louis area after the storm to make sure people were surviving without electric light and heat.

The same was happening in neighboring Illinois, where Gov. Rod Blagojevich ordered National Guard troops to begin checking on Decatur-area residents.

After spending three days at a shelter in a converted recreation center, Angela Luster hitched a ride with the National Guard to check on her apartment.

"It's terrible. You just had to uproot your life," said Luster, 28. "We have to live by other people's rules and regulations. It's difficult being around people you don't know."



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I wonder where's that annual global warming...I mean climate change conference this year? It was in Montreal last year, during a record cold snap. I think that's when it dawned on them that global warming isn't real. So they changed their message to "climate change." The trasition is almost complete. The recent report by a high ranking British official used the phrase "climate change" as well as "global warming." Soon, global warming will be over and we can move on to "climate change."

Personally I like "climate change" better. It covers everything. We can blame any little anomaly happening anywhere on this earth to the use of fossile fuel. Of course we oppose using nuclear energy to reduce the use of fossil fuel. I mean that just makes too much sense.
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Old 12-06-2006, 01:37 AM   #380 (permalink)
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Gunnut what exactly are you trying to prove with this article ?

I f you had followed the discussion it was all along about changing climate. The argument is simply that a overall warmer planet will lead to much more extreme weather .

Why not name it as it is: the planet gets warmer. Climate does change. The last line of defense right now for Dalem& Co is that it isnt man made.

Therefore a snowstorm isnt prove against that the planet itself is getting warmer.

I only climate zone would shift slowly I dont think that the mayor insurance companies would be so worried.

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Old 12-06-2006, 02:28 AM   #381 (permalink)
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Gunnut what exactly are you trying to prove with this article ?

I f you had followed the discussion it was all along about changing climate. The argument is simply that a overall warmer planet will lead to much more extreme weather .

Why not name it as it is: the planet gets warmer. Climate does change. The last line of defense right now for Dalem& Co is that it isnt man made.

Therefore a snowstorm isnt prove against that the planet itself is getting warmer.

I only climate zone would shift slowly I dont think that the mayor insurance companies would be so worried.
"last line of defense"? The only thing I'm "defending" is the scientific method.

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Old 12-06-2006, 19:01 PM   #382 (permalink)
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Gunnut what exactly are you trying to prove with this article ?

I f you had followed the discussion it was all along about changing climate. The argument is simply that a overall warmer planet will lead to much more extreme weather .

Why not name it as it is: the planet gets warmer. Climate does change. The last line of defense right now for Dalem& Co is that it isnt man made.

Therefore a snowstorm isnt prove against that the planet itself is getting warmer.

I only climate zone would shift slowly I dont think that the mayor insurance companies would be so worried.
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Old 06-14-2007, 13:32 PM   #383 (permalink)
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For nightsoil.

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Old 06-30-2007, 04:34 AM   #384 (permalink)
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"None of the models used by IPCC is initialised to the observed state and none of the climate states in the models corresponds even remotely to the current observed climate.

"The state of the oceans, sea ice and soil moisture has no relationship to the observed state at any recent time in any of the IPCC models.

"There is neither an El Nino sequence nor any Pacific Decadal Oscillation that replicates the recent past; yet these are critical modes of variability that affect Pacific rim countries and beyond . . . the starting climate state in several of the models may depart significantly from the real climate owing to model errors" and "regional climate change is impossible to deal with properly unless the models are initialised".

GCMs "assume linearity" which "works for global forced variations, but it cannot work for many aspects of climate, especially those related to the water cycle . . . the science is not done because we do not have reliable or regional predictions of climate".
KEVIN Trenberth is head of the large US National Centre for Atmospheric Research and one of the advisory high priests of the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC).

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Just a question for those who animately believe in Human induced global warming, and that something should be done about it.

Where do you draw the line between what is 'normal' weather, and what is 'unnatural' weather?

In other words, if the climate is always changing. And this period of change is stronger than any other period of climate change in history due to human activity.
Than how to you stop global warming? How do you separate the human induced global warming, from the natural cycle of global warming? can you?
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Where do you draw the line between what is 'normal' weather, and what is 'unnatural' weather?
You don't. You simply claim any weather event is proof of AGW.

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How do you separate the human induced global warming, from the natural cycle of global warming? can you?
Not without models. In fact, if anyone can adequately answer that question without pointing to a model, I'll convert today.
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Old 04-28-2008, 09:32 AM   #387 (permalink)
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Look on the bright side if the world ended tommorrow it would get me out of debt?

By the way I too live on hogher ground, so as long as the Tsunami is no higher than 6ft, I am alright Jack, but I have`nt got a lifeboat
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