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01.05.06 1.00pm

A group of leading climate scientists has announced the formation of the New Zealand Climate Science Coalition, aimed at refuting what it believes are unfounded claims about man-made global warming.

"We believe this is a significant development in opening up the debate about the real effects of climate change and the justification for the costs and other measures prescribed in the Kyoto protocols," said the coalition's secretary, Terry Dunleavy.

He said members of the coalition had had enough of "over-exaggerated" claims about the effects of man-made global warming and aimed to provide a balance to "what is being fed to the people of New Zealand".

The coalition includes such well-known climate scientists as:

* Dr Vincent Gray, of Wellington, an expert reviewer for the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), most recently a visiting scholar at the Beijing Climate Centre in China.

* Dr Gerrit J van der Lingen, of Christchurch, geologist/paleoclimatologist, climate change consultant, former director GRAINZ (Geoscience Research and Investigations New Zealand).

* Prof August H. (Augie) Auer, of Auckland, past professor of atmospheric science, University of Wyoming; previously chief meteorologist, Meteorological Service (MetService) of New Zealand.

* Professor Bob Carter, a New Zealander, now at the Marine Geophysical Laboratory, James Cook University, Queensland, Australia.

* Warwick Hughes, a New Zealand earth scientist living in Perth, who conducts a comprehensive website: www.warwickhughes.com

* Roger Dewhurst, of Katikati, consulting environmental geologist and hydrogeologist.

* Owen McShane, of Kaiwaka, director of the Centre for Resource Management Studies, who is convenor of the establishment committee, said many scientists and economists were concerned that the United Nations International Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) had an effective monopoly on public announcements on global warming.

"Its statements go largely unchallenged -- or go largely unchallenged in a format that will carry weight with governments, the media or the general public," said Mr McShane.

"Hence, a new 'sceptical consensus' has developed that, before the next IPCC report is published in February next year, there should be a panel, or panels, of experts who have established themselves as 'auditors' of the IPCC, both here in New Zealand and abroad.

"Those of us involved in forming this coalition believe that now is the time for individual countries like New Zealand to assemble their own national expert panels, so that these panels can form larger groupings with like minded-panels from other countries so as to be ready to deal with the reports to be published by the IPCC next year.

"Their aim should not be to repeat, or parallel, the work of the IPCC, but to audit its reports, and to let the members of the IPCC know that such auditors are waiting in the wings," said Mr McShane.

He said that the coalition's three main roles would be:

* To publish and distribute papers and commentaries produced by members of the coalition;

* To audit statements by other organisations, both in New Zealand and overseas, which are published in New Zealand, or are expected to influence New Zealand public policy and public opinion;

* To audit the forthcoming United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) report.

The coalition has registered a website domain name, www.climatescience.org.nz , which it expects to have running within a day or two.

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huh_what

A point lost on some environmentalists is that without the greenhouse effect, the average temperatue on Earth would be -18 degrees celsius.

gunnut

Damn that global warming. We've had 4 days of hotter than average temperatures. At this rate, the earth will burn up by December.

Global warming, the politically correct name for summer.

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PubFather

Living in Scotland - I cant bloody wait for it to kick in... palm trees and bikini clad babes on the shores of the Clyde bring it on...

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gunnut

So...It's late July and where are the named storms in the Atlantic? As I recall, last year, we had something like 4 hurricanes hitting Florida this time. Katrina was just lurking offshore.

According to the global warming cult, storms will get more frequent and more intense. I don't see it. Do you?

Canmoore

well Beryl has Nova Scotia within her sights.

Katrina was nothing more than a breeze in Africa this time last year actually.

gunnut

Not to rehash an old subject, but I'm still waiting for the "bigger, stronger, more frequent" hurricanes due to global warming.

Last year was historic. Many global warming cultists were quick to blame America and global warming to the unprecedented number of named storms in the Atlantic.

Where are they now? Both the hurricanes and those who link hurricanes to global warming.

dalem

They're busy changing all of their slides that say "global warming" to "climate change".

Dopes.

-dale

Canmoore

i wonder what exact day that a zebra farted last year, making a little breeze that would tumble along the african sarangeti, then roll into an African storm, then gather streangth as it left the continent to become a tropical depression over the atlantic, then a tropical storm, then finally into a hurricane with the City of New Orleans in her crosshairs.

Must be coming soon, the anniversary of the date that Katrina was truly born.

gunnut

Maybe an American hunter shot that zebra

an4815

I believe the argumnent is simply that in a world where the oceans get warmer it will contribute to bigger, stronger and more frequent hurricanes on average. Seems to make sense to me. That doesn't mean that year on year you will get more hurricanes as other factors also affect hurricane formation. For example winds and whatever is preventing them so far this year.

Confed999

As I understand it, only if it's warmer in one area, and cooler in another. If the warming is even, or the polar areas warm more than equatorial areas, the hurricanes will stay the same or decrease. The difference in temperature is most important.

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ArmchairGeneral

That's the only way I can see it working. Heat engines work by using temperature gradients. If everything's the same temperature, there will be no energy flow, and work will not be performed.

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