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  1. 20th April 2009 13:32 #1
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    Gmail for enterprises: anyone has it?

    Hello folks


    My company has received a proposal to replace our e-mail system (based on Exchange 2003) with Google's Gmail Enterprise. I know the basic info in this system (box size, @what-I-want.com, admin, etc), but I'd like to talk to techs in companies that actually work with this system (nothing like hands-on experience) as well as users.

    So, please, if you are in either of these cathegories, let me know (here or pm) so we could, if you don't mind, trade info.

    Thanks in advance for any help.
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  2. 20th April 2009 18:03 #2
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    Google makes industrial email servers now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gunnut View Post
    Google makes industrial email servers now?
    No...

    You know the standard, web-based Gmail? They sell an entreprise (for companies) version that allows users to have 25GB, has tons of extras, can be administered by the company's IT, has the company's domain (ie, mymail@company.com), etc...
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    Quote Originally Posted by jlvfr View Post
    No...

    You know the standard, web-based Gmail? They sell an entreprise (for companies) version that allows users to have 25GB, has tons of extras, can be administered by the company's IT, has the company's domain (ie, mymail@company.com), etc...
    I wouldn't use that for business. I like to keep things near me rather than in the clouds. Should something happen to your connection or to Google, you are SOL. But that's just me. I don't trust any online app. Just the other day Hotmail had a glitch that wouldn't let me access my email for the entire evening. Google had a glock a few months ago that prevented the customers from accessing their email for a few hours.
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    Do you mean whereby you can use your domain name for gmail by setting your email dns servers to point to google? ... with also the ability of being able to create more accounts/change passwords/make subpages etc?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gunnut View Post
    I wouldn't use that for business. I like to keep things near me rather than in the clouds. Should something happen to your connection or to Google, you are SOL. But that's just me. I don't trust any online app. Just the other day Hotmail had a glitch that wouldn't let me access my email for the entire evening. Google had a glock a few months ago that prevented the customers from accessing their email for a few hours.
    Yes, BUT:
    - gmail has an offline system that allows you to acces the mail even if you can't send/receive;
    - the system has an availability of better than 99% (better than my company's system... )
    - has an outstanding anti-spam system;
    - 25GB box!! Do you know how hard it is to provide a mailbox a user won't clog up in a week?
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    Quote Originally Posted by vlexo View Post
    Do you mean whereby you can use your domain name for gmail by setting your email dns servers to point to google? ... with also the ability of being able to create more accounts/change passwords/make subpages etc?
    Yep, that's it. Been reading some stuff about it, but there's nothing like actually talking to folk who use it... now if I can contact such folk...
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    Quote Originally Posted by jlvfr View Post
    Yes, BUT:
    - gmail has an offline system that allows you to acces the mail even if you can't send/receive;
    I wonder how this is done. If you're offline but still have access to the mail, that means the email is on your end, meaning...

    Quote Originally Posted by jlvfr View Post
    - 25GB box!! Do you know how hard it is to provide a mailbox a user won't clog up in a week?
    You better come up with this storage space somewhere on your system/server.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gunnut View Post
    You better come up with this storage space somewhere on your system/server.
    25GB x 150 mailboxes=3750GB... and, for redundancy (RAID5) multiply that by 3=11250GB

    Plus a backup system...
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    Quote Originally Posted by jlvfr View Post
    25GB x 150 mailboxes=3750GB... and, for redundancy (RAID5) multiply that by 3=11250GB

    Plus a backup system...
    Not everyone will fill up the inbox to capacity, so you can probably go with half the size of your storage.

    If you have the funds to do all that, then I don't see why not. But what do you really gain?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gunnut View Post
    I wonder how this is done. If you're offline but still have access to the mail, that means the email is on your end, meaning...



    You better come up with this storage space somewhere on your system/server.
    Yes I wondered that. Also, where is the server based, what is the legislation covering where the server is based, and who owns and legally has access to the data contained on the server?
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