Poll: Which ship do you prefer and think is the most realistic of all?

Blademaster · 11-13-2007, 12:44 PM

I voted for Battlestar Galactica because it is so huge and it is the most realistic of all.

Blademaster · 11-13-2007, 12:47 PM

Remember, you have to choose the one that you think has the most realistic chance of happening. If you have two, pick one that you think is superior.

Tarek Morgen · 11-13-2007, 13:20 PM

Weren't the B5 ships not the only one which had to rotate to simulate gravity? That would get them my vote.

Blademaster · 11-13-2007, 15:22 PM

Yeah that is true. Their cannons were some sort of a pulse energy based weapon. I don't know if that is realistic or not. The BattleStar Galactica's weapons are very realistic and close to the law of physics. The only thing that is not that realistic is the artificial gravity they use but then again they haven't really gone into the details of it.

I chose Battlestar Galactica because it is the most realistic vision of what a futuristic space navy would look like albiet in a smaller size.

RustyBattleship · 11-13-2007, 15:32 PM

An Enterprise "type" of starship. We are already testing Ion drives and a method of storing anti-matter where it does not touch matter is under study.

But the first ship will be much smaller than those on the show. However, as time goes on they will grow.

Blademaster · 11-13-2007, 17:25 PM

So is the idea of hyperspace jump where you create one hole in one region and another hole in the other region and fold those two holes that it will align and you jump through. There have been mathematical studies on it and it shows that it is theoretically possible.

The weapons and tactics used by BattleStar Galactica are closer to reality than the Star Trek or Star Wars types. For instance, velocity based mass weapons are very kinetic in nature and can impart alot of energy in energy transfer ratios as compared to pulse energy weapons or phaser weapons.

And more so, Battlestar Galactica has skipped traveling between the stars as it is too unrealistic for a human crew to withstand that kind of rigors of traveling between the stars due to time dilation, length of trip, amount of food/water/materials required.

gunnut · 11-13-2007, 17:29 PM

You forgot the Daedalus class cruiser from SG1. Asgard hyperdrive and teleportation technology sound very realistic to me.

dalem · 11-13-2007, 20:40 PM

Blade-

Each of the designs and concepts you listed above requires the acceptance of one or more sci fi "MacGuffin"s, so comparing realities isn't much use. The B5 spinny ship (I know, it's an Omega class DD

) has a more realistic feel and that's why I picked it. But you have to buy some sort of incredibly efficient and powerful (by today's standards) power source.

For BSG, the MacGuffin is that a whole shipful of whiney-assed handwringing crybabies somehow managed to think anyone would miss them and turned down the Emo long enough to jerkface their way around the galaxy.

And they have FTL and magic sexed-up robots, but apparently never checked off the crucial "doggie style" improvement on their march up the tech tree.

For Trek, it's Warp Drive and transporters and inverted plasma deflector relays. Once you buy that, any ship design is acceptable.

For "real" sci fi space ship design and the like, I offer you ROCKETS! A truly exhaustive and "grounded" exploration of the concept of the atom-powered rocketship. Every scifi fan should have it bookmarked.

-dale

Dwarven Pirate · 11-13-2007, 23:41 PM

Death Star

Blademaster · 11-14-2007, 00:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dalem

Blade-

Each of the designs and concepts you listed above requires the acceptance of one or more sci fi "MacGuffin"s, so comparing realities isn't much use. The B5 spinny ship (I know, it's an Omega class DD

) has a more realistic feel and that's why I picked it. But you have to buy some sort of incredibly efficient and powerful (by today's standards) power source.

For BSG, the MacGuffin is that a whole shipful of whiney-assed handwringing crybabies somehow managed to think anyone would miss them and turned down the Emo long enough to jerkface their way around the galaxy.

And they have FTL and magic sexed-up robots, but apparently never checked off the crucial "doggie style" improvement on their march up the tech tree.

For Trek, it's Warp Drive and transporters and inverted plasma deflector relays. Once you buy that, any ship design is acceptable.

For "real" sci fi space ship design and the like, I offer you ROCKETS! A truly exhaustive and "grounded" exploration of the concept of the atom-powered rocketship. Every scifi fan should have it bookmarked.

-dale

Hmmm, should I add Flash Gordon's ship to the poll.

Blademaster · 11-14-2007, 00:45 AM

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Originally Posted by gunnut

You forgot the Daedalus class cruiser from SG1. Asgard hyperdrive and teleportation technology sound very realistic to me.

Oh please do not insult my intelligence that the Daedalus class cruiser bear the slightest resemblance to reality. I find the idea that a backward, technological wise compared to other civilizations in the galaxy, can defeat 10,000 year old species, the Go'ould and beat other civilizations that are way advanced using 4 man special teams to be way more than absurd.

For that reason, anything from SG1 deserves a bout of derision.

**Officer of Engineers** · 11-14-2007, 00:56 AM

I find myself strangely drawn to a B-flick BATTLE BEYOND THE STARS

dalem · 11-14-2007, 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Officer of Engineers

I find myself strangely drawn to a B-flick BATTLE BEYOND THE STARS

Hah! Infamous in the GeekVerse for being the only starship with funbags!

-dale

Dreadnought · 11-14-2007, 14:04 PM

I voted but didnt realize that the Enterprise NCC-1701 (the first ship) was not up there and by accident voted for the other.

Dreadnought · 11-14-2007, 14:30 PM

Hey by the way no Jupiter 2 in that list?

Sheesh.

View Poll Results: Which future ship do you prefer?
Enterprise D/E	11	34.38%
Klingon Vorcha BattleCruiser	1	3.13%
Battlestar Galactica	9	28.13%
Imperial Star Destroyer	5	15.63%
Babylon 5 Earth Alliance Destroyer	6	18.75%
Voters: 32. You may not vote on this poll

11-13-2007, 12:44 PM	#1 (permalink)
Blademaster Military Enthusiast *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 08-15-03 Posts: 3,007	Poll: Which ship do you prefer and think is the most realistic of all? I voted for Battlestar Galactica because it is so huge and it is the most realistic of all. Last edited by Blademaster : 11-13-2007 at 12:46 PM.

11-13-2007, 13:20 PM	#3 (permalink)
Tarek Morgen *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 02-08-07 Location: Kassel Posts: 775 Country:	Weren't the B5 ships not the only one which had to rotate to simulate gravity? That would get them my vote. __________________ uh I might be wrong

11-13-2007, 15:32 PM	#5 (permalink)
RustyBattleship *Defense Professional* Join Date: 01-12-06 Location: Long Beach, CA Posts: 2,683	An Enterprise "type" of starship. We are already testing Ion drives and a method of storing anti-matter where it does not touch matter is under study. But the first ship will be much smaller than those on the show. However, as time goes on they will grow. __________________ Able to leap tall tales in a single groan.

11-13-2007, 17:29 PM	#7 (permalink)
gunnut *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 01-27-06 Location: DPRK, Democratik People's Republik of Kalifornia Posts: 9,143 Country:	You forgot the Daedalus class cruiser from SG1. Asgard hyperdrive and teleportation technology sound very realistic to me. __________________ "Only Nixon can go to China." -- Old Vulcan proverb.

11-13-2007, 12:47 PM	#2 (permalink)
Blademaster Military Enthusiast *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 08-15-03 Posts: 3,007	Remember, you have to choose the one that you think has the most realistic chance of happening. If you have two, pick one that you think is superior.

11-13-2007, 15:22 PM	#4 (permalink)
Blademaster Military Enthusiast *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 08-15-03 Posts: 3,007	Yeah that is true. Their cannons were some sort of a pulse energy based weapon. I don't know if that is realistic or not. The BattleStar Galactica's weapons are very realistic and close to the law of physics. The only thing that is not that realistic is the artificial gravity they use but then again they haven't really gone into the details of it. I chose Battlestar Galactica because it is the most realistic vision of what a futuristic space navy would look like albiet in a smaller size.

11-13-2007, 17:25 PM	#6 (permalink)
Blademaster Military Enthusiast *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 08-15-03 Posts: 3,007	So is the idea of hyperspace jump where you create one hole in one region and another hole in the other region and fold those two holes that it will align and you jump through. There have been mathematical studies on it and it shows that it is theoretically possible. The weapons and tactics used by BattleStar Galactica are closer to reality than the Star Trek or Star Wars types. For instance, velocity based mass weapons are very kinetic in nature and can impart alot of energy in energy transfer ratios as compared to pulse energy weapons or phaser weapons. And more so, Battlestar Galactica has skipped traveling between the stars as it is too unrealistic for a human crew to withstand that kind of rigors of traveling between the stars due to time dilation, length of trip, amount of food/water/materials required.

11-13-2007, 20:40 PM	#8 (permalink)
dalem Lord High Hullabalooster *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 11-23-04 Location: Columbia Heights, MN Posts: 8,185 Country:	Blade- Each of the designs and concepts you listed above requires the acceptance of one or more sci fi "MacGuffin"s, so comparing realities isn't much use. The B5 spinny ship (I know, it's an Omega class DD ) has a more realistic feel and that's why I picked it. But you have to buy some sort of incredibly efficient and powerful (by today's standards) power source. For BSG, the MacGuffin is that a whole shipful of whiney-assed handwringing crybabies somehow managed to think anyone would miss them and turned down the Emo long enough to jerkface their way around the galaxy. And they have FTL and magic sexed-up robots, but apparently never checked off the crucial "doggie style" improvement on their march up the tech tree. For Trek, it's Warp Drive and transporters and inverted plasma deflector relays. Once you buy that, any ship design is acceptable. For "real" sci fi space ship design and the like, I offer you ROCKETS! A truly exhaustive and "grounded" exploration of the concept of the atom-powered rocketship. Every scifi fan should have it bookmarked. -dale

11-13-2007, 23:41 PM	#9 (permalink)
Dwarven Pirate Contributor Join Date: 08-20-07 Posts: 325	Death Star

11-14-2007, 14:04 PM	#14 (permalink)
Dreadnought *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 05-12-05 Posts: 5,243 Country:	I voted but didnt realize that the Enterprise NCC-1701 (the first ship) was not up there and by accident voted for the other. __________________ Fortitude.....The strength to persist...The courage to endure.

11-14-2007, 14:30 PM	#15 (permalink)
Dreadnought *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 05-12-05 Posts: 5,243 Country:	Hey by the way no Jupiter 2 in that list? Sheesh.

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