Sombra

Well the bumblebee not being able to fly is an old joke between aeronautic engineers but we know quite well why she is able to fly.

Omon, if you insist on creating a perpetual motion machine. Take a cup of water put in front of you and wait till its starts to boil for your tea without you doing nothing. Or take an drink with ice cubes and they stay exactly as they are or forming more ice inside a warm room...

Do you expect these things to happen?

omon

how does tea cup experement resamble pmm? i never said you can get something without any energy input, the thing is not all energy is straigt forward, there are sucssecfull permanent maget motors made, it's a fact,
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did you ever try to buid one, i doubt it, instead of telling everyone it,s imposible, just coz it is by some theory or another, try to find a way around them, remember airplane was tought imposible too, not anymore.

dave lukins

[quote=execrable;350560]You seem to contradict yourself!

Some people say the fact that bumble bees can fly break the laws of physics

The very simple reason that "bumble bees" can fly is because they have TWO sets of wings ,not ONE set as once thought

omon

[quote=dave lukins;350752]yes the same second set of wings, makes the bee not fall down when it hits the wall, if we only could duplicate that.

WhamBam

I think there was some discussion going on in this forum about how GOD created the universe out of nothing. How do we account for all the matter and energy in the universe that we observe all around us.

I had read an interesting explaination on this I think in a Stephan Hwaking boook. It says that the sum of all the -ve potential energy in the universe (on account of the work that will be required to move the matter to infinite distance from all the other influences) is equal to all the energy in the universe. So the sum total of all the energy in the world is ZERO.

The creation that we see all around us is a play of the Heinsberg's uncertainty principle.

brokensickle

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Ivan

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brokensickle

The bible says, God said," I am the alpha and omega, the beginning and the end. I don't think God was created from nothing. But God created things from nothing. God was and is and will be forever in the past, ever present, and forever in the future. God in essence always was. IMHO?.





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Omon,

I love your optimism. If something could be created from nothing it would break the laws of physics as we now understand. But as you and I know science has not yet arrived. There are countless examples of what was once thought to be science fact that is far from being factual. To say we understand the laws of thermal dynamics completely would be a mistake. If any man says he understands anything completely he is foolish, diluted or God. But since many of the men who believe they can make confident assertions on unproven theories or "LAWS OF SCIENCE" don't believe in God that would by their own belief leave them foolish or diluted. Many times advances that have been made in science are usually made by some guy who refuses to believe the nay sayers. The visionaries usually break the "LAWS OF SCIENCE" and silence the critics and leave them scratching their heads. The creative usually wins the day. I am not sure if perpetual motion is possible. But I think with God all things are possible, even making something from nothing. Keep being optimistic, you will be well served by it IMHO.


Ivan