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Are Muslims the Jews of Today?
Are Muslims the Jews of Today?
Australian Lawyer Stephen Hopper thinks that Muslims are being dehumanized in the public discourse surrounding terrorism, in the same way Nazis dehumanized Jews before World War II. He’s not the only one to see such a connection. Kari Vogt, Norwegian Islam expert at the University of Oslo, has compared Ibn Warraq’s book ”Why I am not a Muslim” to anti-Jewish fabrications “The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion.” Professor Bernt Hagtvet, also from the University of Oslo, sees many parallels, but also some differences. There are far more Muslims in Europe now than there were Jews before WW2, and their numbers are rising fast. Swedish historian of religion Matthias Gardell claims that Islamophobia is perhaps the greatest threat to democracy in the Western world today. Swedish writer and leftist intellectual Jan Guillou has stated that the rhetoric employed by the Nazis against Jews is now used to target Muslims. The Nazis thought that all Jews were part of an international conspiracy to control the world and subdue others in their own lands. Guillou thinks the exact same thing is now happening, only this time, Muslims are the victims of this hate. The curious thing about this mantra warning against “Islamophobia”, which is now commonplace in the media, is that very few bother to analyze it properly. If they did, they would discover that the Jews of today are, well, Jews. Jews are suffering attacks across much of Western Europe at worse rates than at any time since the rise of the Nazis in the 1930s. In Sweden, an anti-Semitic crime is reported to the police once every three days. The Jewish congregations in major cities Stockholm, Göteborg and Malmö are forced to spend up to 25 percent of their membership fees on security and hired guards. And most of these hate crimes are perpetrated by Muslims. Even some non-Jews from Sweden say they feel "liberated" when they go to Israel. In Israel, you know who the country's enemies are, and you are prepared to fight for your country and for your convictions. It is hard to overstate the extent to which Sweden is a politically repressed nation, thanks to self-proclaimed guardians of the Multicultural Truth such as Mr. Guillou. No dissent is tolerated, and the few "racists" who try to raise a debate about Muslim immigration are attacked, sometimes even physically. Jews in the 1930s were a minority everywhere, and had no country they could call their own. Jewish refugees were rejected by many countries even when some of them tried to escape the rise of the Nazis. Muslims today count more than one billion individuals, and constitute the majority in about 60 countries worldwide. In most of these countries, non-Muslims face various levels of discrimination, or even in some the continuous threat of physical extermination. Jews in Western countries do not constitute a terror threat, and never have. Muslims do all the time. Jews do not have a history of more than 1000 years of armed attacks on Europe, India, Africa, the Middle East and Central Asia. Muslims do. Jews do not cut the throats of Buddhist monks in Thailand, massacre Hindus in Bangladesh or stab Christian nuns in Egypt. Muslims do. Jews do not take hostages, decapitate them and distribute videos of their acts. Muslims do. Jews do not gang rape Christian women in Western nations. Muslims do. Jews represent the most prosperous and talented ethnic groups in Europe. Muslims in Europe are ranked close to the bottom of all indicators of education and social achievements. Muslims, being 20 % of the world's population, have produced only three Nobel laureates in science and literature, whereas Jews, being only 0.2% of the world's population, have received more than 120 Nobel prizes in science, economics, medicine and literature. Jews before WW2 filled up Europe’s universities. Muslims now fill up Europe’s prisons. In fact, the comparisons to the 1930s make a lot more sense if you compare Muslims to the Nazis. And there was a connection, even during WW2. Adolf Hitler is reputed to have stated his admiration for Islam, and thought it would be a better match for Nazism than Christianity, with its stupid notions of compassion for inferior people. Hajj Amin al-Husseini, the grand mufti of Jerusalem and the leader of Muslim fundamentalists in Palestine, resided in Berlin as a welcome guest of the Nazis throughout the years of the Holocaust. The Nazi-Islamic love affair remains strong. Hitler's 'Mein Kampf' is a bestseller in Islamic nations such as Turkey, at the same time as Turkish PM Erdogan wants anti-Islamism to be accepted as a crime against humanity in the EU. And not few Muslim leaders state their wish to finish what the Nazis started. Broadcasts from imams in the Palestinian Authority have stated that: “The day will come when we will rule America. The day will come when we will rule Britain and the entire world – except for the Jews. Listen to the Prophet Muhammad, who tells you about the evil end that awaits Jews. The stones and trees will want the Muslims to finish off every Jew." In Denmark, professor of Islamic studies Mehdi Mozaffari tells of how he and thousands of others have fled burkas, sharia, blood money, muftis and Islamism in the Middle East, only to witness the same beast rear its ugly head in Europe. And he warns of the consequences: “Historical experience has shown that those people fear will win, eventually. We saw this in Nazi Germany. There were too many Nazis, and people were scared. I fear that this is where we are heading, once more.” Danish author Kåre Bluitgen had difficulties in getting artists to illustrate his book about Muhammad due to fear of reprisals from Islamic extremists. Jyllands-Posten, Denmark's largest newspaper, responded by asking 40 illustrators to make drawings of Muhammad, and published twelve. The decision has caused a stir among Muslims, triggered threats against the newspaper and a diplomatic row with many Muslim countries that is still going on. The most immediate victims of this climate of fear are Muslim women. A Pakistani man in Denmark recently murdered his sister in the street outside a train station because she had married a man against her family’s orders. Perhaps worst is the way the experience of Nazism has been turned on its head and used to promote the ideology of Multiculturalism. Any objection to mass immigration or the destruction of traditional Judeo-Christian moral values is deemed as racist, akin to support for fascism. As a result, in the name of Multicultural tolerance, we have allowed the creation of the brutal, anti-democratic monster of Islamism in our midst. It is a bizarre paradox that the hysteria over Nazism has encouraged Europe to be swamped by Islam, in which anti-Semitism appears to be an integral part of the creed. If criticism of Islam causes Muslims to behave badly, then what has 2,000 years of persecution done to the Jews? Surely the Holocaust and other pogroms in Europe would have made Jews start their own Jihad? Then how come Jews don’t go on the rampage throughout Europe? The comparison between Muslims today and Jews 70 years ago is nonsense, and needs to be confronted and dismissed as such. It is an insult to the Buddhists who are beheaded in Thailand, the Christians who are persecuted in Indonesia, the Hindus who are killed in Pakistan and the Europeans who are no longer safe in their own cities. But above all, it is an insult to the memory of the millions of teachers, artists, writers and intellectuals who were murdered in Nazi-controlled Europe. As one Spanish observer notes, Europe herself may soon pay for having decimated much of her Jewry and replaced them with Muslims: Europe died in Auschwitz We assassinated 6 million Jews in order to end up bringing in 20 million Muslims! We burnt in Auschwitz the culture, intelligence and power to create. We must admit that Europe, by relaxing its borders and giving in under the pretext of tolerance to the values of a fallacious cultural relativism, opened it's doors to 20 million Muslims, often illiterates and fanatics that we could meet, at best, in places such as Raval, the poorest of the nations and of the ghettos, and who are preparing the worst, such as the 9/11 and the Madrid bombing and who are lodged in apartment blocs provided by the social welfare. We also have exchanged culture with fanaticism, the capacity to create with the will to destroy, the wisdom with the superstition. We have exchanged the transcendental instinct of the Jews, who even under the worst possible conditions have always looked for a better peaceful world, for the suicide bomber. We have exchanged the pride of life for the fanatic obsession of death. Our death and that of our children. What a grave mistake that we made!!! From: http://fjordman.blogspot.com/2005/11...-of-today.html Thanks & Regards Yasir Karim |
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Tamizhanban
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the last time I checked, the jews did not ram planes in to public places killing thousands of people, they did not kill innocent men, women and children in the name of jihad.
So ask the author to get off the grass he's smokin!
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I think the way we muslims are being seen as terrorist, just gives u the idea of these satanic ppl trying ever so hard to propagate the wrong face of Islam asa peaceful religion. Ok if we killed innocent ppl, then how come u good ppl dropped a massive atomic bomb on poor citizens of Japan. No u guys are angels, u could do anything u wish and then calll us terrorist. HOW SHAMEFUL CAN THIS BE....
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The good people dropped an atom bomb and realised the folly.
They never dropped it again! The good people of fantatical amongst Islam behead, decapacitate, terrorise, run their archaic law fit for the barbaric Medieval times, discriminate against minorities and force upon them the Islamic Sharia, clamour to declare fellow Moslems like Shias as non Moslem and demand that jezia tax be applied to non Moslems and yet they do not realise their folly. That is the difference. One repents. The other gloats at the cruelty it perpetuates and continues to do so without repentance. One has compassion. The other is a reminder of the barbaric times. One is human. The other is animal like. And the most unfortunate commentary is that many fringe Moslems do not have the guts to confront the evil perpetuated by the fanatical Moslems except for hollow verbiage which has the value of garbage in and garbage out! And worse are those who do not perpetuate the evil of fanatical Moslems but stand on the sidelines, wailing and moaning and yet clapping all the way!
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![]() "Some have learnt many Tricks of sly Evasion, Instead of Truth they use Equivocation, And eke it out with mental Reservation, Which is to good Men an Abomination." I don't have to attend every argument I'm invited to. HAKUNA MATATA Last edited by Ray : 12-19-2005 at 08:13 AM. |
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Yasir karim,
You have negated your question "Are muslims today's Jews?" with your own article. I don't know whether that was your intention. However, the comparison of muslims to Nazis was interesting.
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Secondly, we dropped two bombs to specifically end the war, we did not nuke the whole world, even though we had the capacity to do so with impunity right after WW2. |
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Contact the FBI: the claim I'm in Al-Qaeda vs falsifying information and wasting their time. |
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Tamizhanban
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well, we'll issue a fatwa saying AQ Khan is not a muslim anymore. That answers your question Samudra?
Pakistan is good in issuing specific fatwas like declaring some sects as non-muslim, declaring some regions as non-suicide bombmable ( is that even a word??), painting 2 communities as evil satans (yeah its hindus and jews u dummy) etc etc. |
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Platinum,
I am not concerned only with WMDs. The daily mayhem is even worse. I saw a glimmer of hope in the Morrocon protest and the other protest, However, the moderate Islam has done nothing to follow it up! Here was a chap who wanted a Crusade! He was shooed off and none made some silly excuse to say that what he meant was "X" or what he meant was "Y" and how that his views were not truly Christian it not having Christian compassion etc etc. Check the posts on this forum. There is always some sort of weasle mannered support for the terrorist amongst the Moslem posters except for Neo and Lunatock. While they stand their ground, yet they do not turn the Nelson's eye to wrongdoings by the Islamic fundamentalists! On the other hand, you always desperately try to make an impossible possible and in the bargain fail miserably. |
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