why are british royals so shameless

raj · 11-09-2005, 05:50 AM

we see the bit(h queen still wearing the crown wearing the crown with kohinoor diamond which was stolen from INDIA, and not only her every mueseum in england has some stolen stuff from INDIA why do they shamelessly display that.
Is it in the blood of brithishers or is it just their nature
-raj

giggs88 · 11-09-2005, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by raj

Is it in the blood of brithishers or is it just their nature

Are you one of those morons who think all white people are evil or something?

Get over the petty ****. Move on.

The diamond has been in the hands of COUNTLESS foreign invaders. I don't see you complaining about them. Claims for the diamond have also been made by Pakistan and Iran. Don't believe me? Look it up. Idiot.

Lahori paa jee · 11-09-2005, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by giggs88

Are you one of those morons who think all white people are evil or something?

Get over the petty ****. Move on.

The diamond has been in the hands of COUNTLESS foreign invaders. I don't see you complaining about them. Claims for the diamond have also been made by Pakistan and Iran. Don't believe me? Look it up. Idiot.

I fully agree with Raj.

Samudra · 11-09-2005, 10:40 AM

Hmmm the best way to get the diamond for India, if a lot of people in India do care about it in the first place, is to earn a hell lot of a money, make India very rich, steal all British jobs,stagnate their economy...beggar them to the point where they are willing to auction their crown jewels and some rich Indian picks it up from there to decorate his wives jewel case or something cinematic like that.

But then, I, and many a Indians like me, care a wee bit more about a lot of other things and the diamond and all that crap - the British can keep.

At the worst I'd like to crack a joke or two in the museums where these jewels are displayed about how the British robbers robbed my country blah blah blah...

Karma is a strange thing.
For what they did, they shall recieve.
I'd leave it at that and keep working towards my other important and urgent things on hand.

Ray · 11-09-2005, 13:48 PM

Why so much about the diamond?

The British Museum has quite a few artefacts and national treasures of not only India, but from everywhere from their Empire, where the sun never set!

The only reason I am not grumbling is that they are being looked after better there in the Blighty than they would have been looked after in their original countries.

One has to observe the mess that is on with the jewels of the Nizam and the way other priceless stuff is maintained in the Indian Museums.

Let sleeping diamonds lie where they are, so to say!

sparten · 11-09-2005, 14:13 PM

Shahjahen's Peacock Throne is in ToupKapi museum in Turkey. And after seeing it this January, I can only say, "let them keep it."

raj · 11-09-2005, 16:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by giggs88

Are you one of those morons who think all white people are evil or something?

Get over the petty ****. Move on.

The diamond has been in the hands of COUNTLESS foreign invaders. I don't see you complaining about them. Claims for the diamond have also been made by Pakistan and Iran. Don't believe me? Look it up. Idiot.

BTW how different is this from white people in texas displaying thier slaves photos of their grandfathers just to show off.
If u donot know the history, the diamond was found in hyderabad mines,the city which i come from

giggs88 · 11-09-2005, 16:50 PM

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Originally Posted by raj

BTW how different is this from white people in texas displaying thier slaves photos of their grandfathers just to show off.

That was the dumbest post I have ever seen on WAB. Stop further embarassing yourself.

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If u donot know the history, the diamond was found in hyderabad mines,the city which i come from

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kohinoor_diamond

I CTRL+F'ed and searched for that city on that page. It's not even on there. Stop making up myths. Do you know the history? No you don't, because the diamond doesn't really have a solid background.

Ray · 11-09-2005, 17:35 PM

The Kohinoor Diamond

According to some sources, the Koh-i-noor diamond was found in the Godavari river in central India 4,000 years ago. Tradition associated with it states that its owner will rule the world, but that to possess it is dangerous for any but a woman. This may have been a delicate piece of flattery to Queen Victoria, who once owned the gem.

The authentic history of this jewel begins in the 14 c. when it was reported to be in the possession of the rajas of Malwa. It later fell into the hands of Baber, who founded the Mogul dynasty in 1526. During the next two centuries the diamond was one of the most prized items in the treasure of the Mogul emperors.

In 1939, Nadir Shah of Persia invaded India and all of the treasures of the Moguls fell into his hands except the great diamond. Nadir Shah was told by one of the emperor's harem women that the stone was hidden in the emperor's turban. The conqueror then invited the conquered to a feast and offered to exchange turbans as a gesture of friendship. The emperor had no choice but to agree. Later, in the privacy of his tent, Nadir Shah unrolled the turban, the gem fell out, and Nadir is supposed to have exclaimed "Koh-i-noor", mountain of light.

The stone continued in the possession of the Persian dynasty, although many attempts were made to gain ownership of it. The Persian king was assassinated, and his son Shah Rukh, was deposed. In an effort to discover the whereabouts of the diamond Shah Rukh´s eyes were put out, and boiling pitch was poured on his head, but he refused steadfastly to reveal its hiding place. Later, a Persian king fled with it to the Sikh court, and Ranjit Singh, the Lion of the Punjab, took the stone and wore it as a decoration. It was later placed in the Lahore treasury. After the Sikh wars, it was taken by the East India Company as part of the indemnity levied in 1849, and was subsequently presented to Queen Victoria at a sparkling levee marking the company's 250th anniversary.

Koh Diamond
Weight: 108.93 carats
Cut: round brilliant cut diamond

The jewel was displayed at the Great Exhibition of 1851 where it was thought to display insufficient fire. It was decided to recut it from its original Indian form, and a member of the Amsterdam firm of Costar was called to London to cut the stone. A steam-driven cutting wheel was set up, and Prince Albert se the stone on the wheel, while the Duke of Wellington started it. The cutting took 38 days, but did not add much to the stone's brilliance. It was rather believed that the historical value of the diamond was diminished by the cutting. Queen Victoria continued to wear it as an ornament, then left it to Queen Alexandra, who wore it at Edward VII´s coronation. In 1911, the jewel was used in a crown made for Queen Mary, and in 1937, in another made to be worn by Queen Elizabeth at the coronation of her husband, King George VI in 1937. The Queen Mother's crown with the Koh-i-noor is in the Tower of London.

http://www.diamondtutorials.com/arti...r_Diamond.html

Leader · 11-09-2005, 17:36 PM

"why are british royals so shameless"

Inbreeding

bull · 11-10-2005, 01:53 AM

When i saw the topic at first,i thought this is abt the conduct of Jr royals,but this turned out be abt a diamond.Well i dont know,if they give it back i will take it,but i amn't going to fight for it.Lets take their jobs and let them keep the diamonds.

Ray · 11-10-2005, 02:02 AM

Diamonds are forever!

The British Royalty may not be, with the way the chaps are getting feisty about it!

raj · 11-10-2005, 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by giggs88

That was the dumbest post I have ever seen on WAB. Stop further embarassing yourself.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kohinoor_diamond

I CTRL+F'ed and searched for that city on that page. It's not even on there. Stop making up myths. Do you know the history? No you don't, because the diamond doesn't really have a solid background.

i am sure u must be one of those Idiot$ who think that britishers have done a good job ruling INDIA

**ZFBoxcar** · 11-10-2005, 02:28 AM

You must be one of those who thinks not caring about a diamond is the same thing as condoning imperialism or that putting that diamond in a crown makes the British people evil ("Is it in the blood of brithishers or is it just their nature")

raj · 11-10-2005, 04:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ZFBoxcar

You must be one of those who thinks not caring about a diamond is the same thing as condoning imperialism or that putting that diamond in a crown makes the British people evil ("Is it in the blood of brithishers or is it just their nature")

can u please tell me what the queen represents and what does the crown represent. BTW do u think the crown is that equal to a bandana worn by a hippy on some road in london

11-09-2005, 10:40 AM	#4 (permalink)
Samudra *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 09-01-04 Location: North London Posts: 4,432 Country:	Hmmm the best way to get the diamond for India, if a lot of people in India do care about it in the first place, is to earn a hell lot of a money, make India very rich, steal all British jobs,stagnate their economy...beggar them to the point where they are willing to auction their crown jewels and some rich Indian picks it up from there to decorate his wives jewel case or something cinematic like that. But then, I, and many a Indians like me, care a wee bit more about a lot of other things and the diamond and all that crap - the British can keep. At the worst I'd like to crack a joke or two in the museums where these jewels are displayed about how the British robbers robbed my country blah blah blah... Karma is a strange thing. For what they did, they shall recieve. I'd leave it at that and keep working towards my other important and urgent things on hand. Last edited by Samudra : 11-09-2005 at 10:43 AM.

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sparten Actus Reus *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 04-10-04 Location: You would like to know would'nt you? Posts: 1,695 Country:	Shahjahen's Peacock Throne is in ToupKapi museum in Turkey. And after seeing it this January, I can only say, "let them keep it." __________________ "Any relations in a social order will endure if there is infused into them some of that spirit of human sympathy, which qualifies life for immortality." ~ George William Russell

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Leader Ubi dubium ibi libertas *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 09-04-03 Location: Boston, MA, USPRA Posts: 5,124	"why are british royals so shameless" Inbreeding __________________ "Above all, we must realize that no arsenal, or no weapon in the arsenals of the world, is so formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women. It is a weapon our adversaries in today's world do not have." "The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'" NEVER FORGET

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bull *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 01-17-05 Posts: 2,982	When i saw the topic at first,i thought this is abt the conduct of Jr royals,but this turned out be abt a diamond.Well i dont know,if they give it back i will take it,but i amn't going to fight for it.Lets take their jobs and let them keep the diamonds. __________________ What's the difference between people who pray in church and those who pray in casinos? The ones in the casinos are serious.

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11-09-2005, 13:48 PM	#5 (permalink)
Ray Postmaster General *Military Professional* Join Date: 08-20-03 Posts: 28,291 Country:	Why so much about the diamond? The British Museum has quite a few artefacts and national treasures of not only India, but from everywhere from their Empire, where the sun never set! The only reason I am not grumbling is that they are being looked after better there in the Blighty than they would have been looked after in their original countries. One has to observe the mess that is on with the jewels of the Nizam and the way other priceless stuff is maintained in the Indian Museums. Let sleeping diamonds lie where they are, so to say!

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Ray Postmaster General *Military Professional* Join Date: 08-20-03 Posts: 28,291 Country:	Diamonds are forever! The British Royalty may not be, with the way the chaps are getting feisty about it!

11-10-2005, 02:28 AM	#14 (permalink)
ZFBoxcar Moderator Join Date: 08-03-03 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 2,129 Country:	You must be one of those who thinks not caring about a diamond is the same thing as condoning imperialism or that putting that diamond in a crown makes the British people evil ("Is it in the blood of brithishers or is it just their nature")

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