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Old 10-17-2005, 20:40 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Isn't this the perfect time for India to cross the LoC?

The fact that the terror infrastructure that was in place is now decimated and the PA is in disarray trying to cope with the humanitarian catastrophe, it would be perfect time for the IA to cross the LoC and secure Kashmir once and for all.

And for those of you already crying foul of how bad it would look to take advanatage of a natural disaster that 'could' bring these two countries 'possiblly' together, I say to you this region has been bleeding for the last 15 or so years and permanent solution would be a repreive to most.

Anyways, I just brought it up because I'm pretty sure that I'm not the only one here or over there that hasn't thought of it.
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Old 10-17-2005, 20:47 PM   #2 (permalink)
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not a bad idea .... it will do the world a whole good and teach some of men there to be civilized
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Old 10-18-2005, 00:18 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Relax the humanity shown by India has gone a long way. The LOC is being crossed, not by Indian troops but by the people who had once been brainwashed and had gone as "refugees". These people are the ones that know the truth about the other side and now want to come back "home".
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Old 10-18-2005, 10:01 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Its really sad what happened today, while India continues to donate aide, the ISI continues its campaign of no "let up" in the Valley, the Minister of Education was shot dead today.
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Old 10-18-2005, 10:22 AM   #5 (permalink)
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It will be an act of total cowerdness and will be condemnd internationally I'm sure!
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Old 10-18-2005, 11:20 AM   #6 (permalink)
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It will be an act of total cowerdness and will be condemnd internationally I'm sure!
Crossing the LOC and helping your poor soldiers burried under rubble?
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Old 10-18-2005, 11:47 AM   #7 (permalink)
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It will be an act of total cowerdness and will be condemnd internationally I'm sure!
Thats odd considering the pakistani opportunism at Kargil is to still thought of as "bravery" by them.
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Old 10-18-2005, 13:52 PM   #8 (permalink)
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It will be an act of total cowerdness and will be condemnd internationally I'm sure!
In realpolitik terms, it would be ideal.

But the Indians are not ideal, they are idealists!

No chance.

Can't ruin our image, can we?

Other can be sneaky as in Op Gibralter and Kargil. but catch the good old morals keeper of the world being sneaky!

Heavens, what would "Mike" Gandhi, the father of the Nation say and also good old "So new Ah (to world affairs)!" Gandhi?


Can't wreck up the Nehru - Gandhi dynasty, can we?

Personally, joking aside, it would not be cricket if we used this calamity to pursue a God given opportunity! God given it might be, but it is not appealing to me as a human being.

In fact, it would be shameful.

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Old 10-18-2005, 14:00 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Sir,

It would lead to a full scale war and God knows with what consequeces
Pakistan may be bleeding, but PA can make India bleed aswell.
I don't even want to think of a war.
We both will be pushed back into the dark ages if nukes are used...
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You and many other have condemned Kargill, and so have I, so how will anyone justify India crossing LOC right now when Pakistan is week and bleeding?
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Okay, just read your last edited remarks.
I agree, it would be a shameful action that will lead to worldwide condemnation.
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Old 10-18-2005, 14:07 PM   #12 (permalink)
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It will be an act of total cowerdness and will be condemnd internationally I'm sure!
Sure it would be an act of cowardice and it would be condemned but its a shame that it comes from someone who belongs to a country that "KARGIL", I think I will stop here now.
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Yes, I'm a proud Pakistani!
But I dare to say that I personally have condemned Kargill. I'm still trying to understand what events lead PA to initiate Kargill anyway.

It was a brilliant plan, but the timing sucked and the action simply cannot be justified.
We should have tried to do that in '65 or '71.
But today, as we both are nuclear armed, there's no solution in militancy.
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Old 10-18-2005, 14:17 PM   #14 (permalink)
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You and many other have condemned Kargill, and so have I, so how will anyone justify India crossing LOC right now when Pakistan is week and bleeding?
You think we need to actually justify Indian Army crossing the LoC? The only reason it was done was to help Pakistani soldiers burried under the ruble of their bunkers. Your govt denied it anyway, we are used to that, Pakistan does live in denial. If at all, the Pakistanis should be justifying this.
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Old 10-18-2005, 15:27 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Yes, I'm a proud Pakistani!
But I dare to say that I personally have condemned Kargill. I'm still trying to understand what events lead PA to initiate Kargill anyway.

It was a brilliant plan, but the timing sucked and the action simply cannot be justified.
We should have tried to do that in '65 or '71.
But today, as we both are nuclear armed, there's no solution in militancy.
Man grasp this fact, that everytime Pakistan has been mischevious (65, 71 & Kargil) you have had ur butts kicked, and luckily for you, we always had a moderate & an easy going person in power and that the army has no say whatsoever when it comes 2 executive decisions. Pray it stays this way or not even ur nuclear weapons would save Pakistan if there was 2 be a repeat of Kargil.
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