Ray

Humour him.

He is as Sikh as let's say Ho Chi Minh.

Why spoil his fun?

How can a Sikh be in Pakistan when the Sikh were butchered in Pakistan. Sikhs don't forgive easily.

History shows that Sikhs have always battle the Moslem against the injustices to Hinus and Sikh under the Moguls.

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Wow, he's offering his resignation. Does he not know that the whole population of India wants him hanged? This issue will not rest until he is hung publicly along with his co-politicians. Bastards

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This is a very emotional topic. And it brings such sentiments to see our fellow Indians agree with us. If only the media all around the world could show Hindus denouncing and condemning what happened in 84', and agreeing that those culprits should be hanged. That would be such a change. I do believe Hindus hate those culprits, but the media has never shown it. Thus, leaving Sikhs feeling alienated.

667medic

This news made my day. Next target Ahmedabad. I bet modi is shitting in his pants

lemontree

Not really, politicians too have faced music. The telecom minister who went to jail for corruption in Utteranchal (forget the idiots name), then Narshimha Rao.

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Cheers!...on the rocks!!

hammer

He doesnt have to worry about it for another 20 years.All those enquiry commissions take atleast two decades to complete their inquiry. I wonder what they investigate for so long.lol.

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hammer

Both Narshimha Rao and Lakhubhi pathak were in heaven before any verdict was passed. .

Karthik

The Prime Minister stands up in Parliament to defend his goverment.

He starts by lecturing the house on not to treat a 'human tradegy' politically, and appeals to all members not to drive a wedge between the Sikh community and the mainstream.

At the same time, spends quite sometime defending all the Gandhis ( with Nehru, Indira, Rajiv ) and is appears to be more interested in the fact that the top leadership of his party was given a clean chit, rather than who was responsible for that crime.

The CPM, meanwhile, dilutes the debate by starting a parallel attack on the BJP ( one wonders if they do anything apart from criticising people ).

Tytler will come back. He certainly will.

Nah, this is too bad and too familiar.

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hubby

Ohh..another guy Sajjan Kumar resigns.Since the release of the report he was dumb, didn't spoke a word. All the blame lies with Sonia Gandee (dirty), why did she gave them tickets ?

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Sameer

The pics of Sikhs posted by the Pakistani masquarading as a Sikh are not anti India protests, they are protests aimed at getting justice and rightly so, there were 500 HIndus marching alongside them today, this was shown on Indian TV. Most of these people LIVE IN DELHI, GET IT, THEY LIVE AND WORK IN THE CAPITAL CITY OF THE COUNTRY, they are not seperatists lol.

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500 Hindus marched with them. That is what it is all about. Justice will be brought, when the majority of India will also take part in the protests. Sikhs Hindus Muslims, Christians Dalits ALL should join and protest at the same time. All for one, and one for ALL! Vande Mataram

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http://www.tribuneindia.com/2005/200...1icev5-56k.ram

“I have no hesitation in apologising to the Sikh community. I apologise not only to the Sikh community but to the whole Indian nation because what took place in 1984 is the negation of the concept of nationhood enshrined in our Constitution.”


“I am not standing on any false prestige. On behalf of our government, on behalf of the entire people of this country, I bow my head in shame that such a thing took place.”

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Manmohan apologises to Sikhs for ’84 riots
“I bow my head in shame that such a thing took place”
Tribune News Service

New Delhi, August 11
Seeking to assuage the sentiments of the Sikh community, Prime Minister Manmohan Singh today apologised on behalf of his government for the 1984 anti-Sikh riots, saying he was not standing on any “false prestige” and his head bowed in shame.

Intervening in the discussion on the Opposition-sponsored motion in the Rajya Sabha on the Nanavati Commission report, the Prime Minister said he had no hesitation in apologising to the Sikh community. “I apologise not only to the Sikh community but to the whole nation, because what took place in 1984 is a negation of the concept of nationhood enshrined in our Constitution. I am not standing on any false prestige. On behalf of our government, on behalf of the entire people of this country, I bow my head in shame,” Dr Singh said.

The Prime Minister said he had seen statements by Opposition leaders that he should seek forgiveness of the country.

The Prime Minister said he had accompanied Congress President Sonia Gandhi to Harmandar Sahib some five or six years ago. “We together prayed that give us strength and show us the way that such things never take place again in our country.”

Urging members not to play politics on the 1984 tragedy, he said, “The past is behind us. We cannot change it, but we can write the future. We must have the will power to write a better future for all of us.” Describing the assassination of the then Prime Minister Indira Gandhi as a “great national tragedy,” he said, “What happened subsequently was equally shameful.”

“We must try to find new ways so as to ensure that the country does not go this way again. Whether Gujarat or any other part of the country, such incidents should not recur,” he said.

Referring to some individuals mentioned in the Nanavati report, he said the commission has not come forward with conclusive conclusions. “These are in the realm of probabilities”.

However, he said the government would reopen cases, including those against policemen, wherever it was possible under the law. “Whosoever figures in the Nanavati report and the commission has drawn an adverse inference about their conduct or behaviour, we will reopen those cases,” he said. He promised assistance to all widows, children and the affected families so that they can lead a life of dignity and self-respect.

The Prime Minister charged the Opposition with trying to separate the Sikh community from “the great traditions of the Congress party.”

Dr Singh said the progress achieved by post-Partition Punjab would not have been possible without the leadership provided by country’s first Prime Minister Jawaharlal Nehru. “It is also a fact that when that glorious chapter in the history of Punjab was being written, the Akali Dal was busy dividing the people of Punjab on communal lines.”

He said after the Akali Dal came to power in Punjab in 1967, the result was there to see. Appealing to political parties “not to play politics with the sentiments of a brave community like the Sikhs,” he said everyone should help in letting the community to get out of the trauma of 1984.

“Let us not do anything that will reverse the trend....Let us also do nothing to weaken its spirit.”

He said several commissions have gone into the lapses of 1984. “We all know that we still do not know the truth, and the search must go on. This present commission is no exception to that,” he said.

The Prime Minister said the Nanavati Commission has nailed the lie that top Congress leaders were involved in the 1984 anti-Sikh riots. “This lie has been used for the past 21 years to poison the minds of Sikh youths. This lie stands nailed conclusively,” he said.

Recalling that it was late Rajiv Gandhi who provided a new deal to Punjab by signing an accord with Sant Harchand Singh Longowal, Dr Singh said after the 1984 tragedy, the uppermost thing Rajiv Gandhi had in his mind was how to bring Punjab back into the national mainstream.

He also recalled how late Indira Gandhi rejected the suggestions to change her Sikh bodyguards, saying she had no doubts about their sincerity and integrity. “Who can forget the sacrifices of this family,” he said.

He said everyone should work steadfast for mutual reconciliation.

“I respectfully submit that this is not achieved by pursuing partisan goals, apportioning blame”, he said. Dr Singh said in he framework of open society and open economy, there should be respect for all. “There have been aberrations but to err is human.”

Recalling how Nanavati Commission was set up by the previous NDA government, Dr Singh, who was then Leader of House in the Rajya Sabha, said his party had no choice with regard to the Commission’s terms of reference or on who was going to head it.

Referring to the era of terrorism in Punjab, he said it was country’s leadership that did not allow any wedge between the Sikhs and the mainstream and did not allow designs of the nation’s enemies to succeed.

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News Analysis
PM assuages feelings of Sikh community
T R Ramachandran
Tribune News Service

New Delhi, August 11
That heads had to role in the Congress following the G T Nanavati Commission report on the 1984 anti-Sikh riots was evident. Despite opinion being divided in the Congress, it was a question of time before the inevitable happened. It has no doubt left former Union Minister Jagdish Tytler and Sajjan Kumar, the MP from Outer Delhi, minus their jobs. Mr Kumar was compelled to quit as the Chairman of the Delhi Rural Development Board (DRDB) which had an annual budget of Rs 1 billion.

By yesterday afternoon it became clear that both Mr Tytler and Mr Kumar would have to bite the bullet when Prime Minister Manmohan Singh without taking names emphasised in his intervention in the Lok Sabha that the Congress-led UPA government will take all possible steps within the ambit of the law to reopen or further examine individual cases recommended by the Nanavati Commission.

Prior to that the Left was shouting hoarse that its demands had been accepted by the Manmohan Singh Government. These included the exit of Mr Tytler as minister and Mr Kumar from the DRDB. The Left parties had told TV news channels that if the government reneged on its four point demand, it will have no compunction in voting with the Opposition on the adjournment motion.

Despite Mr Tytler’s assertions that he was being made a scapegoat because of a conspiracy against him within the Congress, Mr Kumar kept his counsel to himself and assiduously kept away from the media spotlight. But the diktat was given and Mr Tytler and Mr Kumar meekly fell in line with the party directive.

That the Prime Minister was under intense pressure was never in doubt. What compounded matters was the Action Taken Report (ATR) of the government which in the case of Mr Tytler insisted that in “criminal cases, a person cannot be prosecuted simply on the basis of probability.” Clearly, Union Home Minister Shivraj Patil and his ministry was out of sync with the thinking right at the top.

There is a strong section of opinion in the government which believes that without much ado the Prime Minister should have asked Mr Tytler to resign his ministership forthwith rather than providing the necessary lever to the Opposition to have a field day. Clearly, there were other compulsions as certain Congress bigwigs insisted that caving in to the Opposition’s demands would inevitably lead to a cacophony of others being targetted and the UPA Government might find itself inexorably pushed to the wall. A large complement of Congressmen insist that delaying the inevitable creates further complications for the leadership and put additional strain on the coalition partners.

At the same time, the Prime Minister has assuaged the feelings of the Sikh community today which had felt completely out of depth and expressed its anger against Dr Singh in no uncertain terms yesterday. Now they see a ray of light and hope at the end of the tunnel. Dr Singh’s sincere apology to the nation for the 1984 November anti-Sikh riots in his intervention in the Rajya Sabha today has brought about a turnaround in the simmering angst of the Sikh community.

Dr Singh observed “I bow my head in shame for what happened...but there are ebbs and tide in a nation’s history.”

At the same time both Mr Tytler and Mr Kumar were tense and furious with their ignominious exit as Union Minister and chief of the DRDB, respectively. Mr Tytler’s supporters at his residence including a motley group of Sikhs maintained that their leader resigned as Union Minister for the sake of the Congress party and not because of political pressure. It may be noted that the Congress had denied Mr Kumar the party ticket for the parliamentary elections thrice in 1984, 1998 and 1999 for his alleged role in the anti-Sikh riots. Mr Tytler is expected to urge the UPA Government to set up a special probe into the Nanavati Commission’s findings and specially go into the charges levelled against him. The Nanavati Commission had noted that Mr Tytler’s involvement in the anti-Sikh riots was “very probable”.

Official sources indicate the government will direct the investigating agencies to undertake a fresh investigation in keeping with the recommendations of the Nanavati Commission.

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’84 riots: govt forms 2 panels for relief
Opposition motion on Nanavati report defeated in RS
Tribune News Service

New Delhi, August 11
The Opposition-sponsored motion on Nanavati Commission report was today defeated in the Rajya Sabha by voice vote after Home Minister Shivraj Patil announced setting up of two committees to ensure due compensation to victims of 1984 anti-Sikh riots.

Winding up the day-long special discussion on the motion, Mr Patil said the committees would sort out all issues with regard to compensation to victims “within one-two months”.

Admitting that compensation provided in some states was not adequate, he said the Government without any discrimination will ensure that other victims got compensation on par with those in Delhi.

Refuting the opposition charge that the Centre was trying to protect the “guilty”, the Home Minister, who made some philosophical notes, assured the members that any person found responsible for the riots will be dealt with as per the law.

Criticising the opposition for drawing political mileage on such an issue, he appealed to the members not to fish in troubled waters. “Don’t disturb society in this fashion.”

Noting that all 10 recommendations of the Nanavati Commission had been accepted by the government, Mr Patil said the most important of them all was that pertaining to compensation which had been implemented in toto.

Making a point-by-point rebuttal of the Opposition charges, Mr Patil said there was no substance in the Opposition’s allegation that the riots were a “government organised activity” as the Nanavati Commission, which was appointed by the then NDA government, had clearly stated that there was absolutely no truth in the allegation that Rajiv Gandhi or any high ranking Congress leader was involved in the riots.

Mr Patil also defended the delay in the tabling the Commission’s report along with the ATR, saying the government needed time to look into the report and also the FIRs filed against political leaders and police officials.

With regard to Dharma Das Shastri, he said the government had accepted the recommendation to initiate action against him.

In case of Mr Tytler, he said the commission’s findings were ‘ambiguous’ as it suggested that there was no credible evidence and action could be taken against him if the government found it safe as he had “very probably” a hand in organising the riots.

In case of Sajjan Kumar, the government would initiate action only in one case where witness Sunder Singh had lodged a complaint against him and for Union Minister H.K.L. Bhagat, the government was in conformity with the commission’s recommendations not to initiate action against him in view of his poor physical and mental health, Mr Patil said.

As regards the police officers named in the report, Mr Patil said most of them are now retired and thus departmental action cannot be initiated. However, he assured that wherever criminal cases could be initiated the government will act.

Earlier, the BJP-led NDA kept up pressure on the Manmohan Singh government to take immediate action against all those indicted by the Nanavati Commission despite resignation of Jagdish Tytler as Union Minister.

The CPM, outside supporter of the UPA government, said it was unhappy over the action taken report and was rejecting most of its portions.

Initiating a discussion on the Nanavati Commission report under rule 168 that entails voting, after suspension of the Question Hour, BJP leader Rajnath Singh said the names of several Congress leaders were also mentioned in the report and the government should act immediately.

Congress members were on their feet when Rajnath Singh without naming Sonia Gandhi referred to her as a “super Prime Minister” to whom, he said, Tytler preferred to hand over his resignation rather than to Prime Minister Manmohan Singh.

When Congress member Janardhana Poojary tried to quote the rule book and objected to member’s comments, Mr Rajnath Singh said he had not named anybody.

Mr Nilotpal Basu (CPI-M) said his party had rejected major parts of the report because it has not taken forward recommendations of earlier reports and “had turned the clock back”.

Samajwadi Party’s Janeshwar Mishra remarks that some RSS members were seen indulging in anti-Sikh riots in Kanpur led to strong reaction from BJP benches.