NCAA Bans Indian Mascots During Postseason - Page 2

Leader · 08-07-2005, 21:56 PM

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Originally Posted by EricTheRed

This sucks for Florida state. Since they got permission from the seminole tribe to use the name

Just another treaty that the white man forced on the red brothers.

**Parihaka** · 08-07-2005, 23:20 PM

and as they all baled out, they yelled "Geronimoooooo....."

magic-spaceship · 08-08-2005, 23:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Su-47MKI

lol...all the rednecks in this forum are angry about political correctness...what a surprise.

he is defending political correctness by using a racial slur? - we have a winner folks.

Gun Grape · 08-10-2005, 07:12 AM

Maybe the Seminoles tribe should sue the NCAA for loss of revenue if FSU is forced to change mascots. Under the agreement that allows FSU to use a Nole, the tribe gets a percentage of revenue generated and schooling programs.

Will the NCAA step up to the plate and provide the same level of compensation?

Confed999 · 08-13-2005, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by magic-spaceship

he is defending political correctness by using a racial slur? - we have a winner folks.

leib10 · 08-13-2005, 15:53 PM

Modern day society pisses me off so much sometimes...

bonehead · 08-13-2005, 22:04 PM

This reminds me of the time (around 1976) when some guy stopped at a fast food restaurant and proceeded to gripe about all of the local indian names for cities, parks, etc, and how he couldn't put up with Indian names on a daily basis. He then got back into his PONTIAC GTO and drove away.

The early american settlers were lonely, and horny people. Just pay attention to some of the names of plants and landmarks. Out west, we have a grass that grows in the cascades (origionally called "SQUAW T.I.T." grass). Later changed to T.I.T. grass. The PCers weren't finished yet. Then the name later changed to BARE grass (which was still too offensive). Now we have BEAR grass and few really know what to call it or even what it lookes like.

There is a movement to remove/change all names of areas, streets, mountains, valleys, lakes, etc, if they contain the word "squaw" This is turning into a monumental head ache as this was a popular name.

I am still wondering what will happen when the PCers find out what GRAND TETONS really means.

Instead of "banning the mascots," the schools should have been given the choice to gain permission of the tribe in question, or to find another mascot. That way the tribes would be empowered to decide whether to have a school honor them (the tribe could be compensated and have control over how they are presented by the mascot) or the tribe could decide to slowly fade from "the white mans consciousness". Quick! Name a tribe that is not a name of a car or is a school mascot. I think the NCAA gave the tribes a slap in the face by not allowing them a voice, or a choice in the matter. Maybe that man in the GTO is now in the NCAA and just does not want to be reminded of the Native Americans that live here too.

giggs88 · 08-13-2005, 22:17 PM

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Originally Posted by bonehead

Instead of "banning the mascots," the schools should have been given the choice to gain permission of the tribe in question, or to find another mascot.

That is an excellent idea.

Gun Grape · 08-25-2005, 07:03 AM

The NCAA has allowed FSU to keep the Nole mascot because the Florida Seminole Indian tribe gave the school permission. According to the Tallahasse Democrat yesterday

**Shek** · 08-25-2005, 08:08 AM

I had to laugh when I saw a blog post on this subject that pointed out that the NCAA is headquartered in INDIANapolis.

Anon · 08-25-2005, 16:23 PM

The GTO is not named after an indian tribe.

It's Italian, and it means "Grand Turisimo Otomobile(Sp?)".

The GTO is named after a FERRARI.

LOL...

thesaint · 08-25-2005, 17:48 PM

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Originally Posted by M21Sniper

The GTO is not named after an indian tribe.

It's Italian, and it means "Grand Turisimo Otomobile(Sp?)".

The GTO is named after a FERRARI.

LOL...

Nope. It is spelled "automobile" and wouldn't make any sense.
It rather is "Gran Turismo Omologato" where the Omologato part means the car satisfied the specs for participation in the Gran Turismo championship races.

Anyway, why calling a team "Fighting Sioux" would be offensive really beats me.
I mean, it seems more like showing honour and respect for the Sioux tribes. Same for the Fighting Illini. Their mascottes are not ridiculous at all...
I don't know, seems to me like a further example of the stupidity of the entire PC concept.

**Shek** · 08-25-2005, 18:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M21Sniper

The GTO is not named after an indian tribe.

It's Italian, and it means "Grand Turisimo Otomobile(Sp?)".

The GTO is named after a FERRARI.

LOL...

Snipe,
Pontiac is an indian chief.

Anon · 08-25-2005, 20:24 PM

""Gran Turismo Omologato""

That's it!!!

LOL...i was so close.

Shek- Stop confusing the issue with the facts.

Dammit.

Anon · 08-26-2005, 02:58 AM

"Nope. It is spelled "automobile" and wouldn't make any sense."

Heh, sort of like half your posts...

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Gun Grape Resident Curmudgeon *Military Professional* Join Date: 03-12-05 Location: Panama City Fl Posts: 2,900	FSU allowed to keep Nole mascot The NCAA has allowed FSU to keep the Nole mascot because the Florida Seminole Indian tribe gave the school permission. According to the Tallahasse Democrat yesterday Last edited by Gun Grape : 08-25-2005 at 07:11 AM.

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08-10-2005, 07:12 AM	#19 (permalink)
Gun Grape Resident Curmudgeon *Military Professional* Join Date: 03-12-05 Location: Panama City Fl Posts: 2,900	Maybe the Seminoles tribe should sue the NCAA for loss of revenue if FSU is forced to change mascots. Under the agreement that allows FSU to use a Nole, the tribe gets a percentage of revenue generated and schooling programs. Will the NCAA step up to the plate and provide the same level of compensation?

08-13-2005, 22:04 PM	#22 (permalink)
bonehead *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 01-12-05 Posts: 1,913	This reminds me of the time (around 1976) when some guy stopped at a fast food restaurant and proceeded to gripe about all of the local indian names for cities, parks, etc, and how he couldn't put up with Indian names on a daily basis. He then got back into his PONTIAC GTO and drove away. The early american settlers were lonely, and horny people. Just pay attention to some of the names of plants and landmarks. Out west, we have a grass that grows in the cascades (origionally called "SQUAW T.I.T." grass). Later changed to T.I.T. grass. The PCers weren't finished yet. Then the name later changed to BARE grass (which was still too offensive). Now we have BEAR grass and few really know what to call it or even what it lookes like. There is a movement to remove/change all names of areas, streets, mountains, valleys, lakes, etc, if they contain the word "squaw" This is turning into a monumental head ache as this was a popular name. I am still wondering what will happen when the PCers find out what GRAND TETONS really means. Instead of "banning the mascots," the schools should have been given the choice to gain permission of the tribe in question, or to find another mascot. That way the tribes would be empowered to decide whether to have a school honor them (the tribe could be compensated and have control over how they are presented by the mascot) or the tribe could decide to slowly fade from "the white mans consciousness". Quick! Name a tribe that is not a name of a car or is a school mascot. I think the NCAA gave the tribes a slap in the face by not allowing them a voice, or a choice in the matter. Maybe that man in the GTO is now in the NCAA and just does not want to be reminded of the Native Americans that live here too.

08-25-2005, 08:08 AM	#25 (permalink)
Shek *Military Professional* Moderator Join Date: 02-23-05 Location: Krblachistan Posts: 7,981 Country:	I had to laugh when I saw a blog post on this subject that pointed out that the NCAA is headquartered in INDIANapolis.

08-25-2005, 16:23 PM	#26 (permalink)
Anon New Member Join Date: 08-03-03 Posts: 0	The GTO is not named after an indian tribe. It's Italian, and it means "Grand Turisimo Otomobile(Sp?)". The GTO is named after a FERRARI. LOL...

08-25-2005, 20:24 PM	#29 (permalink)
Anon New Member Join Date: 08-03-03 Posts: 0	""Gran Turismo Omologato"" That's it!!! LOL...i was so close. Shek- Stop confusing the issue with the facts. Dammit.

08-26-2005, 02:58 AM	#30 (permalink)
Anon New Member Join Date: 08-03-03 Posts: 0	"Nope. It is spelled "automobile" and wouldn't make any sense." Heh, sort of like half your posts...

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