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Old 07-20-2005, 08:32 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Yes it means empty headed and no, I didnt mean you.

Then I say, cheers on the rocks! >>> That reminds me, I recently visited Niagara Falls, Canada (NOT AMERICA), and I went to Rumours Nite Club and told the lady bartender 'a vodka shot please', with hesitation and without me correcting her, she poured all vodka in a shot glass and stared at me. I took one sip and told her to spill it, and asked for a beer. So no, it won't be cheers on the rocks Jay. But I will have a beer or two with you.
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Old 07-21-2005, 09:57 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Sikhs protest against Indian PM outside White House
By Khalid Hasan

WASHINGTON:
Nearly a thousand Sikhs – women, children and old men – marched up and down in front of the White House on a hot and humid July evening, shouting emotional slogans against Manmohan Singh and demanding the establishment of a Sikh homeland.

Dr Amarjit Singh, director of the Khalistan Affairs Centre, said the US and the world must take notice of the “current reign of terror let loose in the Sikh homeland of Punjab, on orders of Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, who was appointed, not elected.”

Many of the men were wearing distinct saffron turbans, with the marchers led by a group holding aloft saffron coloured flags of Independent Khalistan. The marchers had come from all over the United States and everyone agreed that it was an impressive show. The slogans being shouted by the protesters were indicative of their feelings. Some of the more popular slogans of the day were, ‘India, out of Khalistan’, ‘Sikhs demand Khalistan,’ ‘Who is the Terrorist? Indian government.’, ‘Liberty of Death,’ ‘Free political prisoners,’ ‘We shall overcome’ etc.

The rally was addressed by a number of Sikh leaders, all of whom demanded the immediate release of Sardar Surjit [Should read Simranjit] Singh Mann, who, they alleged, had been tortured in jail as a result of which he had suffered a spinal injury. The called Prime Minister Manmohan Singh as a “traitor to the Sikh nation” and a “renegade.” The protest ended shortly before the Indian leader was due to arrive at the White House for an official dinner.

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Old 07-21-2005, 10:01 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Old 07-21-2005, 10:08 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Where are the figures of this "impressive" show? Any answers
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Old 07-21-2005, 10:45 AM   #20 (permalink)
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hmm, are they demanding for a Khali-stan in USA?? Impressive Lets all welcome the United States of Khali-stan.
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Old 07-22-2005, 08:24 AM   #21 (permalink)
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hmm, are they demanding for a Khali-stan in USA?? Impressive Lets all welcome the United States of Khali-stan.

Oh god, Jay and his "empty headed" comment again lol
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Sikh Americans Protest State Dinner
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Old 07-23-2005, 11:18 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Pictorial: Toronto Sikhs protest against arrests in Punjab

Pictorial: Toronto Sikhs protest against arrests in Punjab
Sunday 17th July, 2005
Anoop Singh - Panthic Weekly Staff


Toronto, Canada (KP) - In a series of protests all over the world following the arrests of Sikh political leaders and Panthic activists in Punjab, this week on July 12, a major protest rally took place near the Indian consulate offices in Toronto, Canada. Estimatedly 500 community members were present at rally, including children and elderly members. The protesters arrived on the scene at noon this Tuesday. Large number of banners were seen, carrying slogans such as 'Khalistan Zindabad' (Long Live Khalistan), 'Stop Killing Minorities in India' and 'Free Sikh Leader: Simranjit Singh Mann'. Several activists spoke against the state tyranny in Punjab, and demanded the freedom of 3000 Sikhs arrested by the police, among them Simranjit Singh Mann, chief of Shiromani Akali Dal (Amritsar).

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Old 07-23-2005, 11:19 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Old 07-23-2005, 14:37 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Excellent development in the war against Indian human rights violations and their despicable propaganda culture:

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PRESS RELEASE
Friday 22 July 2005

SIKHS MEET THE MAYOR OF LONDON AND GET DOWN TO BUSINESS


Sikh representatives have met with the Mayor of London, Ken Livingstone to discuss a range of important issues relating to the Sikh community. Informed commentators believe the meeting organised and facilitated by the Sikh Federation (UK) and the outcomes represent one of the most positive developments for British Sikhs in the last 30 years.

Ken Livingstone is probably the second most important politician in the UK after the Prime Minister and has shown by his willingness to support the Sikh community that Sikhs can work with politicians at the highest levels to secure lasting benefits for Sikhs in this country.

The Sikh Federation (UK), the first and only Sikh political party in the UK, and the Sikh Secretariat lead on Sikh issues taken up at the political and Parliamentary level. Much of the ground work for the meeting had been carried out by the Federation and Sikh Secretariat months before the meeting. The meeting was therefore businesslike and focused on reaching formal agreements surrounding several key issues.

Naturally the meeting began with a briefing on the implications for the Sikh community of the terrorist attacks in London on 7 July. It was pointed out to the Mayor that Sikhs had been extremely disappointed by the lack of acknowledgement by senior politicians for attacks on Sikhs due to their identity. Ken Livingstone's own words were repeated to highlight how Sikhs had been ignored.

The Press Release reproduced below and issued earlier today is self explanatory. The Mayor has made clear that attacks on Sikhs and their religious institutions are totally unacceptable and will not be tolerated. In the meeting he also asked the Sikh representatives taking part in the meeting to convey his apologies to Sikhs for his oversight when he gave his first interview in Singapore and did not mention Sikhs.

One of the most important announcements by the Mayor concerns his assurances and promises on separate recognition of monitoring of Sikhs. Immediately after the one-hour meeting with Sikh representatives he was to see the Metropolitan Police Commissioner Sir Ian Blair and promised to urge him to also separately recognise and monitor Sikhs as a separate ethnic group. The Mayor said he was also happy to make the case to the Government to change the Statutory Code of Practice relating to the Race Relations (Amendment) Act that would require all public bodies to monitor Sikhs.

At the meeting with the Mayor the Sikh Federation (UK) had the support of representatives of different Sikh organisations regarding specific issues and concerns raised. For example, Bibi Balvinder Kaur, Chair Sikhs In England and Sikh Women’s Alliance made clear their activities in support of the London Olympic bid for 2012 and opposition to the Paris bid due to restrictions on religious freedoms in France. The Sikh Federation (UK) mentioned their lobbying and letters to all IOC members with specific targeting of around 50 members. These activities were noted approvingly by the Mayor and reflected in his thanks in his Press Release.

The Mayor indicated the Olympics in London 2012 should allow him to support a major international Sikh event to be organised in the 4 year period running up to 2012. Young Sikhs (UK) who were also represented in the meeting are to set up a project team to work up a series of options with initial ideas being developed and presented at the Young Sikhs (UK) Conference at Leicester University on 20 August 2005.

In the context of hosting the first ever Sikh Identity Conference the Mayor said he would welcome a special feature in the Londoner newspaper on the Sikhs - their philosophy, history, identity and contemporary issues.

The Mayor went much further than expected on a possible legal challenge to safeguard the right to religious freedoms in France. He has instructed his staff to get a legal opinion from leading lawyers on whether he can challenge the French authorities on behalf of Londoners. For example, he indicated he was keen to look into the possibility of supporting a legal challenge by a turban wearing Sikh police officer or teacher who is currently denied by French law and practices the right to work in France without compromising his or her fundamental right to religious freedoms.

The final issue covered at the meeting was a pledge by the Mayor about those involved in genocide and human rights abuses against minorities like the Sikhs not being welcome in London and facing possible prosecution under UK law. At a time when exclusion lists are being drawn up in the UK this sends an important and clear message to the international community about what may happen to those involved in torture, disappearances and genocide of Sikhs in India. The Mayor was shocked to learn that Amnesty International and the UN Rapporteur on Torture are still denied access to Panjab and indicated his desire to visit Amritsar provided the Indian authorities do not object to his presence.

Gurmukh Singh, as the Administrative Secretary to the British Sikh Consultative Forum (BSCF) represented at the meeting the views, issues and concerns raised by diverse Sikh organisations participating in the BSCF. A specific plea was made on behalf of the Transport for London Sikh Association who continue to experience a lack of equal opportunities. A number of actions were agreed in this and in a related context that should allow Sikh representation at senior levels in decision making bodies to improve.

Gurjeet Singh
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Friday 22 July 2005 FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Mayor meets Sikh leaders


London Mayor Ken Livingstone has met with representatives of the British Sikh community. Following the meeting the Mayor issued the following statement:

'I have met with representatives of the British Sikh community and thanked them for their enthusiastic support for the successful London 2012 Olympic bid. Sikhs helped in a number of ways to ensure the success of our bid, for which I am truly grateful.

'The Sikh community in London and indeed throughout the UK make a vital contribution to life in the capital through their hard work and honesty. I pay tribute to the Sikh community who have been very vocal in unequivocally condemning those responsible for the terrorist atrocities committed against innocent civilians in London on 7 July and thank them for being at the forefront in paying their respects and condolences to the victims.

'Given the excellent standing of the Sikh community and their contribution, I have been appalled to hear reports of race hate crimes and assaults against Sikhs in London, other parts of the UK and in several cities in other parts of Europe. A number of Gurdwaras have been firebombed and vandalised by a small minority of racist bigots. I have no hesitation in condemning attacks against Sikhs and their religious institutions. These attacks against Sikhs are totally unacceptable and those responsible will be caught and prosecuted.

'My staff have been working with representatives from the Sikh community to encourage public bodies to recognise and monitor Sikhs as a separate and distinct ethnic minority for the purposes of the Race Relations (Amendment) Act. I have therefore agreed that the Greater London Authority, Transport for London and the London Development Agency will start to monitor the provision of public services to Sikhs as a separate ethnic group.

'I will also be actively encouraging individual London Boroughs, the Metropolitan Police and other public bodies in London to follow our lead by offering the same protection and fair treatment afforded to other ethnic minorities.

'The meeting also touched upon my opposition to laws and practices in France and other parts of Europe that are denying Sikhs, Muslims and other faith communities the right to freely practice their religion. The Sikh community have informed me they may persuade a turban wearing police officer working for the Metropolitan Police to launch a legal challenge against the law and practices in France as turban wearing Sikhs are prevented from working as police officers in France. I am prepared to fully support a campaign by any Londoner who wishes to work in France who is denied his or her fundamental right to religious freedoms.

'I am aware the French law not only deprives Sikh children the right to education while at the same time practising their faith, but also impacts on Sikh public employees. In France, Sikhs with turbans are being denied IDs wearing their turbans, they are unable to take up "public sector" jobs, such as, lecture at university or become police officers, teachers, and so on. The law in France prevents Sikhs in the EU from freely working there and is a clear breach of one of the fundamentals of the 1957 Treaty of Rome that established the freedom of movement of labour.

'Given the challenges faced by the Sikh community I have agreed to host the first ever Sikh Identity Conference, which I hope can be arranged later this year. I will be inviting Government Ministers and senior policy makers across the public sector to take part in the conference that is designed to increase awareness and understanding of the Sikh identity and the importance of recognising and separately monitoring Sikhs.

'My meeting with the Sikh community also covered the visit to London of those involved in genocide and human rights abuses against minorities like the Sikhs. I would like to make it totally clear that those involved in torture, disappearances, and genocide are not welcome in London. The conviction this week of Faryadi Zardad in London should send a message across the world to those involved in human rights abuses that the UK authorities will take firm action against those involved in torture.' ENDS
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Old 07-24-2005, 13:04 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Stop ur nonsense. Don't u have guts to argue here. Why the hell u just idiotically copy-paste readymade article, or does it shows ur lack of mental capacity for debate.

Most of the thread started by other members are also copy-pasted. why dont you say anything to that.

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More on the brutal murder of Harpreet Kaur ‘Rano’
Sunday 31st July, 2005
Saffajang Singh - Panthic Weekly Staff


(KP) - It was June 25th, 1992. There was a blockade by the Ghio Mandi in Amritsar by the police who had stopped about 5-7 men to interrogate and search them. The same day, Harpreet Kaur ‘Rano’, younger daughter of S. Ajeet Singh of Sultanwind, was going to the shoemaker to get her slippers repaired. While she was passing the police blockade, she, like the other men was also stopped for questioning. In this process her belongings were also searched. The police officers found some newspaper clippings of Singhs' funerals who had become martyred for the Sikh freedom struggle. Ever since Beant Singh had become the chief minister of Punjab, it had become a crime for this 15 year old innocent girl to keep pictures of Shaheed Singhs and for this reason she was arrested right on the spot.

Harpreet Kaur, whose elderly parents were waiting for her at home, did not have any actual brother so she took all the Singhs who were martyred by the Punjab Police in the Sikh struggles of 80’s and 90’s as her brothers. It was for this reason that she would collect pictures and clippings of Singhs from newspapers. The innocence of wanting a brother at a young age seemed like a crime to the Hindustani Government. Upon her arrest, she was taken to the well known Center BR Model School of Amritsar where she was going to face the punishments for committing this ‘horrendous’ crime under the custody of Constable Darshan Lal.

Her family and other residents of the village made numerous attempts to get her released from the brutal hands of the Indian Police but all attempts went in vain. To the surprise of everyone who had known Harpreet Kaur, on June 28th 1992, the Indian Government operated media reported that she was killed in a police encounter along with three other men. Her family begged the police officers that at least her dead body should be given to them, but all pleas went on deaf ears. Her dead body was disposed along with other ‘unclaimed’ dead bodies in the Durgiana Mandir.

When some elders of Sultinwind village arrived at Durgiana Mandir in search of Harpreet Kaur’s body, Nirmaljit Kaur, the elder sister of Hapreet Kaur, found her sisters ‘karra’ (steel bracelet) which was lying with the ashes of her body. Both sisters wore exactly similar ‘karre’ so this led to Nirmaljit Kaur being able to identify the ashes of her younger sister, Harpreet Kaur. The concluding ceremonies of her funeral were performed from those ashes. Every few days police officers would come and give threats to her family members to keep them from approaching anyone. For this reason, Harpreet Kaur’s family was not able to find any justice from anyone for the murder of their innocent daughter. This is the reason why thousands of families like that of Harpreet Kaur are unable to obtain justice in Punjab.
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