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Old 06-20-2005, 13:04 PM   #16 (permalink)
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You see, you treat this as a Muslim problem. Where as you all choose to talk about it on the Forums, other radical Hindus would rather go and slaughter common Muslim folks on the street and in their homes. People who you call your fellow citizens.
It was the other way around , the muslims slaughtered 400 people in coimbatore. You want to know why? coz the police opened fire on the muslim rioters who the previous day had killed a traffic constable and were lobbing home made bombs and stones at the police.

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Some terrorists, claiming to be of the Islamic faith might have bombed your neighbourhoods, but that doesn't give you the right to retribution on every Muslim that you come in contact with. It's YOUR job to trace out the real culprits and make them pay.
When the police tried to nab the muslim radicals(who killed the traffic constable) hiding in the muslim part of the city , the whole locality protested and started throwing stones and petrol bombs at the police. I am not saying the whole community is involved but they tried to protect them. The uneducated lot(which unfortunately is the majority) have a warped sense of loyalty and justice towards those idiots.
Now this kind of incidents puts the whole muslim community under the scanner. There will ofcourse be a deep divide in the society. The minority would be looked with suspicion. Now who has the solution to this problem ? the muslims themselves.
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Old 06-20-2005, 13:07 PM   #17 (permalink)
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It sounds kind of unbelievable and made up that the whole Muslim community would be up in arms against the Indian law. Unless there's something more to be added to the story. Like the other side...
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Old 06-20-2005, 13:48 PM   #18 (permalink)
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It sounds kind of unbelievable and made up that the whole Muslim community would be up in arms against the Indian law. Unless there's something more to be added to the story. Like the other side...
What Indian law? they have their own Sharia. Do some google on 'Coimbatore Bomb blast' and 'Marad'(which happened in Kerala). Read how the radical elements among the muslims were successful in dividing the society. Communal clashes never happened in the south before. But its a reality now.Thanks to 'mujahideens' or whatever.

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Old 06-20-2005, 15:23 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Old 06-20-2005, 15:43 PM   #20 (permalink)
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What Indian law? they have their own Sharia. Do some google on 'Coimbatore Bomb blast' and 'Marad'(which happened in Kerala). Read how the radical elements among the muslims were successful in dividing the society. Communal clashes never happened in the south before. But its a reality now.Thanks to 'mujahideens' or whatever.
Law as in LAW... the police!!

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Sectarianism is a mentality. Fight that. Only advice I can give you.

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Old 06-20-2005, 22:17 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Right.

Here's a shinning example of the imagination of a person running riots :


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It'll do the Indian society some good to reflect upon these incidents with grief and sorrow
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At least 4 out of 6 decades have seen riots and communal violences, in India where thousands got killed each time.
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As you can see the 3000 people that died in Gujrat changed the future of the Indian state, the results of the elections.
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Where as you all choose to talk about it on the Forums, other radical Hindus would rather go and slaughter common Muslim folks on the street and in their homes.
Thank you very much for your views on the Indian society and your advice for us to reflect things with grief and sorrow. In return, we'd strongly recommend celebrations to hail the jihadi phenomenon in your country.

In what way has the general elections changed the 'future of the Indian state' ? Oh yes, I forgot. Thousands of people are slaughtered in the streets and in their homes.
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Old 06-20-2005, 23:04 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Some terrorists, claiming to be of the Islamic faith might have bombed your neighbourhoods, but that doesn't give you the right to retribution on every Muslim that you come in contact with. It's YOUR job to trace out the real culprits and make them pay.

Just like the culprits behind the Gujrat violence still roam scott free.
Do not make sweeping assumptions.Nowhere did any one call for a 'retribution' against the Muslims.It is a figment of your imagination.Nay , it is what you want.Bloodshed.For it is your kind that scores or wants to score points over dead bodies.

Afterall , that is something the ISI has been trying to do.It comes to me as no surprise.Do not teach us , what you imagine as Secularism or whatever name you choose to call it.

It is so wonderfull of you.You call Indians as insensitive to death , a sweeping generalisation.I dont know if it can get any more stupid than that.

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Old 06-21-2005, 00:47 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Law as in LAW... the police!!
LOL... they were the first to be targeted.

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Sectarianism is a mentality. Fight that. Only advice I can give you.
You can convince the few educated muslim elite. But not the illiterate lot who believe that Allah sent 'tsunami' to punish the 'Kafirs'. I wonder what the Indonesians have to say about this. lol.
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Independence, Sikhs, Babri Masjid, Gujrat... without doing a google. Add to that the several bomb attacks mentioned by you folks!
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Bomb attacks are made by terrorists.they are not relegious issues.

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You see, you treat this as a Muslim problem..
Not all the but what you mentioned below are


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Old 06-21-2005, 05:00 AM   #25 (permalink)
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Actually the elitist class of the high ranked Mullahs said that. Not us.

If anything, it could be called a punishment upon the Muslims, since mostly Muslims died.

Anyway,

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Old 06-21-2005, 05:17 AM   #26 (permalink)
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If anything, it could be called a punishment upon the Muslims, since mostly Muslims died.
About what are you talking ?
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Its just a rhetorical statement. You don't have to search its deeper meaning or anything.
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Old 06-21-2005, 06:34 AM   #28 (permalink)
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In a riot , anywhere in India , its not the Muslims alone who die - although that is what it is made out to be.
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Might is not right , and it is to prevent might becoming right that people have laws.

When the train in Godhra was burnt , it was the Muslim fanatics - I clearly state Muslim fanatics , which people are to understand as Muslims with fanatical ideas and they alone - who outnumbered the passengers.

When the traffic constable Selvaraj was stabbed ,he was outnumbered.

You seek to generalise everything , and intend to paint a picture of a society that is forever divided into communal lines.You seek to paint a picture that a minority can never live with a majority.The Raison Détre for a nation you claim citizenship to.

In other words , you seek to tell the reader that Muslims and Hindus - where Hindus are in a majority simply cannot live together.That has been proven false.And to be frank you know it as much as the founder of the nation you claim citizenship to did.

Such incidents, which when told in the right manner , can convey a message that nothing goes well in a multi-religious country.Infact it appears that is the sole intention of your posting it here.

But is it the truth ? Nay , it is merely selective display of facts.You chose to pin-point facts which favour your opinion.

You chose not to tell the facts, That we continue to facilitate Haj pilgrimage for Muslims.That we continue to have our supreme court voice its opinion very strongly , whenever needed , against people who have the slightest disagreement over the rule of law.That the very same supreme court itself cannot intrude in Muslims personal laws.

You chose not to tell the facts that deserving and hard working individuals in India always get their recognition irrespective of their communal identity and examples for the same are very well known , to you and to the world.And also that lazy undeserving fools continue to enjoy the perks which is made available to them because of their communal identity.

It is these fools, who are attempting to perpetuate their privileged position in the society, that you intend to paint as victims of a majortiy population.It is these fools you intend to use as justifications for a theory propagated by your nation that a multi-religious society - with a large majority of a specific religion , cannot live peacefully.

I now can only take pity in you.I assumed good reasoning where none existed in the first place.

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