Srirangan

http://www.outlookindia.com/pti_news...id=9&id=304111

With Pakistan President Pervez Musharraf talking of various options to resolve the Kashmir issue, moderate Hurriyat faction has said the country does not have a solution to offer on the vexed problem.

Playing down the optimisn generated by the visit of Kashmiri separatist leaders, Hurriyat Chairman Mirwaiz Umar Farooq said they had "very honest discussion" with Musharraf and their understanding was that "Pakistan doesn't have a solution to offer to Kashmiri people." Without naming Musharraf, he referred to the various options being suggested to resolve the issue and said "I do not think we have reached that stage." Addressing a symposium on Kashmir here yesterday organised by the 'Dawn' group of neswpapers, Farooq said "There is no ready-made solution" to the Kashmir problem and the best mode of moving forward could be tripartite talks with India, Pakistan, and Kashmiri leadership sitting on the same table.

But, he said, since India would not agree to this, the alternative for the moment could be a triangular dialogue with Kashmiris talking to both Pakistan and India separately and Pakistan and India talking between themselves.

Farooq said they were still exploring the mode of their participation in the peace process already going on between Pakistan and India and they would be going to New Delhi for talks with the Indian leadership after the present visit.

He said some people thought before his delegation's visit that a solution had already been decided and they would only put their thumb impressions. "... We are at the same place where we were 57 years ago," he said.

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Srirangan

Meanwhile Mushie making yet another sensational statement..

Kashmir issue can be solved in two weeks: Musharraf

Kuala Lumpur, June 13 (PTI) The Kashmir issue can be solved in two weeks if leaders of both India and Pakistan display the political will, President Pervez Musharraf said here today.

Asked if he shared the optimism of some that the Kashmir issue could be settled in a couple of years, Musharraf quipped "why two years I think it can be resolved within two weeks if we have the will." Commenting that "two weeks" was just a way of saying, he said the most important thing was for the leadership of both the nations to have the will to reach a conclusion.

"At this moment, the leadership has the will and I am very hopeful," he told reporters today here during a refueling stopover on his way to Australia for a bilateral visit.

He said talks were being held on issues such as withdrawing troops from Siachen, adding the parleys to redeploy the troops were meant to end the "eyeball to eyeball confrontation" and "I am sure we'll reach a conclusion." Prime Minister Manmohan Singh said yesterday that the two countries were exploring the possibility of pulling their troops out of Siachen Glacier, the world highest battlefied and turn it into a "mountain of peace".

Musharraf said he would love to visit Kashmir. "I would love to go there" but added that he would not make a formal proposal to visit the region as "the time was not ripe yet." He also refused to affirm whether he would step down in 2007 and hand over power to a civilian leader, saying "we will cross the bridge when we come to it." PTI

platinum786

This is all bullsh1t.

I have lost hope with all sides, well not lost hope, i simply hae lost trust.

I see all these so called "Kashmiri leaders" as in the same position as tha Raja, i mean who are they to say what i want? I am Kashmiri too, i have an equal right as some person in Srinagar or Kotli.

Karthik

Musharraf must restrain himself when he speaks before the camera. He speaks too much.

He was less sensational when asked about his plans to step down in 2007.

It seems as though Hurriyat's visit to PoK has ruffled some feathers if their hosts. I mean, I dont think Pakistan expected such strong anti-terrorism statements from the Hurriyat.

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Who saw the interview by Yasin Malik accusing Pak information minister about his terrorist links??

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Monday, June 13, 2005 (Islamabad):

JKLF leader Yasin Malik has said that he had met Pakistan's Information Minister Sheikh Rashid during the 1980s at militant camps in Peshawar.

Yasin Malik is currently on a visit to Pakistan as part of a delegation of Kashmiri separatist leaders.

When Rashid met Malik in Pakistan, Malik let it slip that he had already been associated with Rashid.

Malik said that it was Sheikh Rashid who used to take militants crossed over from India to these camps for guided tours and sometimes even more detailed briefings.

The minister who had come to see a signature exhibition displayed by Malik refused to comment and clearly this could be a huge embarrassment for the Pakistani government.

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bull

Time and again its been proven that only india can provide stability to kashmir.Pakistan is all talk and no actions.

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ha ha ha

platinum786

oh ho ho ho!!!

read this...

ISLAMABAD, June 14: Pakistan’s Information Minister Sheikh Rashid Ahmed denied on Tuesday a newspaper report that he ran training camps for Kashmiri militants fighting Indian rule in the country. “I never ran any militant camp. I have nothing to with any militancy or guerilla warfare,” Mr Rashid told Reuters.

He said he had provided shelter to Kashmiri separatist leader, Yasin Malik, and other Kashmiris when they arrived in Pakistan after an insurgency erupted in held Kashmir in 1989.

“Being a Kashmiri, I have to provide them bread and butter. But there was nothing more than that,” he said.

Mr Malik, one of nine separatist leaders in Pakistan to discuss the future of the Himalayan region with leaders of Pakistan and Azad Kashmir, said he was misquoted in the report.

“It is unfortunate. I never spoke of gun or training camps with regard to Sheikh Rashid (Ahmed),” Malik told Reuters. “What I have said is that ... he provided hospitality when we were just on the roadside.”

http://www.dawn.com/2005/06/15/top4.htm

Vaman

eheheehe..
This is just the kind of vieled language they like to use.
Before 9/11 they maintained that they provided no more than "political and moral support" to a number of these groups. In the aftermath of WTC and the declaration of a number of these groups being lebelled as al-keeda or being in cahoots with al-keeda, suddenly theres complete absence of the term "political and moral support" being used anywhere.
Mushy too loved to put his foot in the mouth. Remember when during his Agra summit he infamously attempted a media coup?
When asked about the civilian casualties being caused in Kashmir by terrorists (he actually shot his mouth off and referred to them as "our boys"..LOL) in the name of freedom... he replied that like in any war "
Collateral Damage" was to be expected.!! I suppose WTC was a "collatera damage" as well.
Now he says he was "misinterpreted" and "misquoted".

I would have so loved it if everytime he went to the west and proclaimed his support against terror, a video of the press conference could be flashed.

Sheikh Rashid is playing the same tune..

Asim Aquil

You do understand the meaning of the word "Misquoted" don't you? The article read some training of 3500 terrorists, its a matter of public record, open up any transcript of Yasin's speech, he never said that... Dude, what he does best, is speaks! Not Guerilla Warfare.

The media is carrying out an extreme bastardization of what the Kashmiri leaders are actually saying. Pak has no solution to offer? It's not something that Pakistan can give. The solution is an agreement, which cannot be done from our side alone.

bull

Why did mailik get out of kashmir when the insurgency errupted?

BY rebuffing the fact that the minister didint have any connection with the training camp and at the same time saying "being a kashmirir i need to give shelther to seperatists" where are you drawing the line???

Srirangan

You assclown have to decide which side you are. There are hundreds of posts where you speak in behalf of Kashmiri's claiming you are one of them. And now you speak being a Pakistani. This totally refutes your claims of being a part Kashmiriyat, serving as an example to all of your slanderous and dishonest ways.

And I can fully trust and expect you to make yet another useless crant to counter my exposure of your truth.

Ohh btw, Pak ahs nothing to offer. It does have lies and propaganda and guns to terrorists. But to the ordinary kashmiri, nuthing but lies and more bloodshed.

Asim Aquil

I'm a Pakistani first, and even in the eventuality of Kashmir gaining freedom, I'll choose to remain with Pakistan. Part of my origins belong to Kashmir and even UP, India. That does not make me Indian, nor Kashmiri.

As I've said over n over, Pakistan may be a country, fine, but its also an idea. An idea that was thought up by the minorities of India, to escape rising hardline Hindu zeal. I'm a part of that idea. I support my side, my Pakistan's voices to let Kashmir go free and independent since that is realistically the only acceptable option for all three parties Pakistan, Kashmir and India, which will bring an end to this conflict.

Stop talking about me now. I hope I've clarified your curiousity about Asim the Aquil. Have you ever seen me ask to name your gramma and grampa? Or from which part of India you're from? what was your mom like? Did you have imaginary friends growing up? Were you good in sports? Get over me! NOW!