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Old 06-01-2005, 15:36 PM   #61 (permalink)
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Capitalism was formulated by the wealthy, European countries as it was the best way to steal wealth from their colonies.
Your confusing two fundmanentally different systems. What you describe is mercentalism, the system of tarrifs and trade barriers in an effort to create a massive trade surplus. Capitalism has no such premise.



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I think your beliefs are based in arrogance. In fact, a sizable proportion of the American population is arrogant. Not all, but enough. I don't think that Allies disputed that during WWI or WWII; the primary complaint of other allied troops was that the American soldiers were too arrogant. The complaint has been repeated numerous times by other the citizens of other countries who happened to cross your path over the years. Oh btw, that's why the French hate your guts. And spare me the propaganda about them being cowards. Even that is only your arrogance speaking.
It's amazing how you devote an entire paragraph to calling me and other Americans arragont but you dedicare exactly zero paragraphs to answering my simple question, which if answered would get us to the core of what we are discussing here.

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It is your arrogance that thinks that you don't owe anyone anything, because in terms of accounting you are right, you don't have to give money to anyone. But speaking morally, it is your duty to ensure that your fellow man at least has someone to help him when he is down. Let me quote from the Bible (many of you are atheists, but you should be able to see the reason):
Not only am I an atheist, but I am an egoist. In other words I am selfish. I believe the correct moral code is egoism; that I should do what is in my rational self-interest. What you profess is the moral code of suicide (altruism). If you followed it to it's logical conclusion you would have to offer yourself to a cannable. No man can accept this moral code consistantly if he has chosen to live. If he has chosen to live, then one needs a code to live by, and since this premise is true, we can say the only purpose of morality is to preserve and enhance ones own life (as I have stated before).



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You don't have to be religious or Christian to understand what is being said here. Because the first quote asks a good question: What guarantee do you have that you will live long enough to spend the wealth you accumulate? Material wealth is yours but the keys to your soul still lie in the hand of God. I suggest you remember that.
Since I do not believe in an afterlife, the only life I am concerned with is the one I am in now.

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Hierarchial philosophy? Define that.
There are five fundamental parts of philosophy, resting on several axioms (i.e. Exsistance Exsists, A=A, etc...). All knowledge is hiearchially based on these axioms. This is to say, you can't know there is a flower without first knowing that reality exsists in which you have the capacity to sense there is a flower. This is what I mean.

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Actually, I think you would prefer my being your accountant as opposed to say Praxus, because would probably be stealing from you while simultaneously stealing from Enron, what with a selfish mentality like that .
It's interesting how you try to pervert egosim. Theft is not in ones interest, as it is is inherently self-destructive.


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As predicted, the world's wealth is collecting in the hands of a few, what with above 80% of the world's wealth in the hands of the industrialized nations. Meaning that the remaining 83% of the world's population lives on 20% of the wealth.

God damn, you are unintelligable at best. You keep insisting that there is a static ammount of wealth that the rich are keeping to themselves. There isn't. Wealth is produced, and men produce it. Just because the top 5% have a large percentage of the wealth at the moment, says nothing about how much wealth everyone else has.

An imaginary example; the poor may have had 50% of the wealth in say 1920 while the rich had 50%. Now lets say that in 1999 the poor had 5% and the rich had 95%. This in no way means that the poor got poorer and the rich got richer. What this ratio ignores, is the fact that the poor could have had their wealth quadrupled while the rich had theirs increased 20 fold. This means that they are in fact both wealthier.

Not only this, but these figures include the third and second world, where there are nations not even close to being Capitalist.


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These figures should show you that claims of economic growth being necessary so that wealth can 'trickle down' to those who need is a 'grotesque scam' as David Suzuki calls it. And these figure are a decade and a half out of date. Globalization is a eupheism for imperialism.
As I have demonstrated above, they also ignore reality.


Rest of it is unrelated bable.
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Old 06-01-2005, 16:26 PM   #62 (permalink)
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So, who's on my side in the Great Vampire Wars? Neutrality is a poor option, as I'm sure the carnage will spill over our northern and southern borders.

My advice to Canada - dig a long trench on your side of the border and fill it with holy water. It's the only way to be sure.

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Old 06-01-2005, 17:02 PM   #63 (permalink)
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So, who's on my side in the Great Vampire Wars? Neutrality is a poor option, as I'm sure the carnage will spill over our northern and southern borders.

My advice to Canada - dig a long trench on your side of the border and fill it with holy water. It's the only way to be sure.

-Count dale
Actually, that would keep my #1 Daughter in during the day while I could stay up and watch her during the night. Also keeps future pesty boyfriends at bay.
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Old 06-01-2005, 17:15 PM   #64 (permalink)
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So, who's on my side in the Great Vampire Wars? Neutrality is a poor option, as I'm sure the carnage will spill over our northern and southern borders.
My advice to Canada - dig a long trench on your side of the border and fill it with holy water. It's the only way to be sure.
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Never having been a rapacious blood-sucking capitalist, merely one of the lowly wage slaves who benefited from their endeavours. From getting a decent education and receiving low cost medical benefits while growing up in Canada, I must heed their clarion call.
Call me Rennick!
No spiders and flies if you please, the essence of neo-socialists will do quite nicely.
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Old 06-01-2005, 17:27 PM   #65 (permalink)
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Never having been a rapacious blood-sucking capitalist, merely one of the lowly wage slaves who benefited from their endeavours. From getting a decent education and receiving low cost medical benefits while growing up in Canada, I must heed their clarion call.
Call me Rennick!
No spiders and flies if you please, the essence of neo-socialists will do quite nicely.
I can respect your decision to resist even as I prepare for your ultimate defeat.

OoE will prove to be a wily foe, of that I have no doubt.

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Count, I really don't see you having a chance. As soon as you bend over to bite a neck, you're screwed by the butt pluggers of Canada (Liberal Party).
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Old 06-01-2005, 18:30 PM   #67 (permalink)
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Count, I really don't see you having a chance. As soon as you bend over to bite a neck, you're screwed by the butt pluggers of Canada (Liberal Party).
Curses!

Once again I am betrayed by my luscious boy-bottom!

I feel certain that one of my fellow lifeblood-sucking American Capitalist Vampires will be able to solve this problem for us.

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Old 06-01-2005, 19:05 PM   #68 (permalink)
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I feel certain that one of my fellow lifeblood-sucking American Capitalist Vampires will be able to solve this problem for us.
This is no problem, Count. We simply offer to build them a free missile defense system. This will cause all the liberals to rush to Ottawa to prepare their angry refusal.

(It's an old trick, but it just might work)
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Old 06-01-2005, 19:21 PM   #69 (permalink)
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This is no problem, Count. We simply offer to build them a free missile defense system. This will cause all the liberals to rush to Ottawa to prepare their angry refusal.
Free isn’t good enough.
I’ll have you know that The Canadian Liberal Party has a reputation to maintain.
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Old 06-01-2005, 19:38 PM   #70 (permalink)
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Free isn’t good enough.
Okay, A missile defense system and Massachusetts. But that's my final offer...
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Old 06-01-2005, 19:56 PM   #71 (permalink)
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Okay, A missile defense system and Massachusetts. But that's my final offer...
Trying to fob of the alcohol-enriched blood of the Kennedy clan on to the defenceless people of your neighbour is a low blow indeed.
No way that is going to make them say:
BITE ME!!
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I don't know if Highsea is trying to use Mass as bait or trying to find homes for their butt pluggers.
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Old 06-01-2005, 20:40 PM   #73 (permalink)
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Damed bullcrap from an ignorant Canadian civie who knows crap about the world and who couldn't care the hell less.
Thank you Sir, well said.
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This is no problem, Count. We simply offer to build them a free missile defense system. This will cause all the liberals to rush to Ottawa to prepare their angry refusal.

(It's an old trick, but it just might work)
So I can count you on the side of American Capitalistic Vampirism then?

Excellent.

Keep in mind, however, that Canada and Mexico are mere sideshows in the great American Vampire War - we must focus on the lifeblood-sucking within our own territory first.

And Vampirella, of course.

Harken to my call, O Arrogant Ones!

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Old 06-01-2005, 21:47 PM   #75 (permalink)
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While I tend to agree with some of the guy's assertions, he needs to rethink his position. The objective of the US is not world domination. Bush actually is trying to make the world a better place. The war in Iraq was a mistake, but we can't just pull out now and leave the country in chaos.

Anyway, this statement is the ultimate irony:
"In fact, a sizable proportion of the American population is arrogant."
Wow! I think that this is the first time we've ever agreed on anything!
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