Asim Aquil

http://us.rediff.com/news/2005/may/09kanch.htm

Interesting views and mindset.

hammer

I know, that is why i insist we should implement uniform civil code in India. The present system is too lenient and only divides the different communities and sects in India. The shah bano case is a failure of the constitution to protect the legitimate rights of an Indian citizen just because she is a muslim and had to follow different set of rules and laws (sharia).

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Asim Aquil

What happens if the Indians oppose such moves?

Jay

What happens if Indians support it??

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hammer

Why would they oppose such a move ? afterall Uniform civil code only guarantees equal rights to all citizens. and affirms that everybody is equal under the law regardless of their faith,race and ethnicity.

Asim Aquil

Well certain issues that are raised in Pakistan by people that resist such moves of secularization mixed with a few that came to mind just now are:

1) Islam is a way of life and thus it forms a part of governance.
2) Would India allow Islamic holidays?
3) Open slaughtering of Cows
4) What's going to keep secular laws from banning the Azan? It afterall is just must be awful noisy to a non-Muslim.

things like that

hammer

The hindus say the same thing 'Hinduism is a way of life' now does that mean that we declare ourselves a Hindu nation and treat non-hindus like second class citizens ? The muslims should learn to live by the laws of the land. and Thank God India has chosen the secular system.Either they live by this system or can migrate to any Islamic state where they can live by sharia law.

Holidays dont have anything to do with Uniform Civil code. India still celeberates and allows Islamic festival and holidays.

Slaughtering of Cows still happens in India. who told you that it is banned?

Please visit India atleast once. Secular laws dont ban Azan and stuff . Its the laws of the constitution I am talking about .

Asim Aquil

Hmmm so u don't think muslims will have a problem with this? What if they do? U know they have privilleges that they might not want to lose?

hammer

The educated muslim eilte wouldnt have any problem with this law. but the rest who form the majority have to be convinced or rather implement the law and let them see for themselves how it doesnt affect their way of life in anyway. But the tough part is convincing the pseudo-secular political parties in India.

Dont you think that its unfair that they are given certain privileges while their own countrymen dont have it just coz they are not muslims. Had it been the other way around , you would have screamed blue murder.
If they dont want to lose those priviliges , then they should migrate to an Islamic nation which rules by sharia law. AFAIK only Saudi's are very particular about it .

konkerer

They will have to be educated to understand that in a secular country like church and state have to be kept seperate, otherwise the state can not be truely secular.

All the major muslim holidays are national holidays. So are the major christian holidays, sikh holidays, budhist holidays, and jain holidays, and of course hindu holidays.

Ethnic groups are allowed to have holidays on minor occasions too.

Cow/calf slaughter is not banned in 8 of the state. Bull/Ox/Buffallow slaughter is permitted in all states.
Even the states which ban cow/calf slaughter, allow cow older than 14 years to be slaughterd.

Secularity does not ban religion, on te contrary it gives freedom to everybody to practice their own religion or in case of atheist, not practice it.

A secular state just seperates "church" and "state", that is all citizens should be treated by uniform civil code.

Asim Aquil

That was enlightening. Btw, how would such a decision be taken?

hammer

Uniform civil code law should be passed in both houses of the parliament and then the president has to approve it with corrections if necessary( I could be wrong , somebody correct me if i am wrong) . I guess it would only happen if and when one single party has the majority and has the will to do it. Its impossible in multiparty coalitions.

Asim Aquil

what about Public opinion?

Karthik

Public opinion will rally behind the move.

Actually, uniform civil code is enshrined in the Directive Principles of State Policy, a part of the Indian Constitution which was designed to guide policy making by governments.

The Supreme Court has also made its views known on the matter.

I agree with hammer. We need to have a single-party government.

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hammer

huh ?! the members of the parliament represent the public , dont they ?