Stone thrown on Pakistani Cricket team bus

Asim Aquil · 04-07-2005, 05:49 AM

http://inhome.rediff.com/cricket/2005/apr/07stone.htm

This is appalling! Indian cricket fans are very narrowly superceded by those English soccer hooligans. They need to keep the game as what it is, the game!

Karthik · 04-07-2005, 09:04 AM

Asim,

Please dont use blanket generalisation again. One moronic act by some twit is not indicative of the wider lot. The reception to the Pakistani cricket team has, by and large been warm.

If I remember correctly, the last time New Zealand toured Pakistan, there was a terrorist bomb attack right in front of their hotel, resulting in them abandoning the rest of the tour.

platinum786 · 04-07-2005, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Karthik

Asim,

Please dont use blanket generalisation again. One moronic act by some twit is not indicative of the wider lot. The reception to the Pakistani cricket team has, by and large been warm.

If I remember correctly, the last time New Zealand toured Pakistan, there was a terrorist bomb attack right in front of their hotel, resulting in them abandoning the rest of the tour.

It only takes one moronic bullet, to ruin your rep forever (please let it hit Afridi)....

The simple fact that this incident took place is a shock, i mean what was security doing?

Today stone, tommorow hand grenade?!

Also read this, written by an Indian....

http://www.icc-cricket.com/db/ARCHIV...28MAR2005.html

A few quotes....

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Kaneria, among the performers of the series, regularly patrolled the boundary in front of the stand I have watched from, and not once did he receive appreciation at the end of a successful over or spell. Afridi was met with similar apathy. Words directed at them, if any, were not flattering. The contrast when an Indian extra walked by with a crate of drinks was embarrassing. Rarely was a Pakistani boundary or an Indian wicket, and there were enough of both, clapped on.

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At the presentation ceremony fifteen minutes after the finish today, modest applause was handed out to Inzamam and Younis Khan. Again, the reception was, what, twenty times smaller than the boos for Ganguly and the cheers for Sehwag. Simply, you would think that this Test match was being played by one team. Well, it almost was, and that team was not India.

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Granted that the Indians played pathetic cricket on the day, and the shock of their supporters is understandable. But just as there was a leaf to be taken out of Pakistan's marvellous performance by the Indian cricket team, so should there be one for the Indian spectators from their counterparts'. This insularity is regressive and terribly disturbing.

What is your problem folks....first the poor reception....i mean granted you took a beating but....we took some defeats too in Pakistan, and your players, media everyone could only sing praises of our hospitality.

Okay, so you resentour creation and hate out existance, so don't return the hospitality, but allowing mobs to stone the teams bus....that is low.

Karthik · 04-07-2005, 11:07 AM

I was there for the Bangalore test. For an entire day's play. The article is hyperbolic.

The Pakistani team members spoke on television during a party in Kolkata, and they were extremely appreciative of the reception they were getting in India. When the players themselves say it, that's enough. We care less on what the others think.

Hari_Om · 04-07-2005, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Asim Aquil

http://inhome.rediff.com/cricket/2005/apr/07stone.htm

This is appalling! Indian cricket fans are very narrowly superceded by those English soccer hooligans. They need to keep the game as what it is, the game!

You mean Pakistani fan’s.

The ongoing ODI series has much for them to be disgruntled about with the Pakistani cricket team.

Ahhh…………the travails of a liberal visa regime.

Hari_Om · 04-07-2005, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by platinum786

It only takes one moronic bullet, to ruin your rep forever (please let it hit Afridi)....

The simple fact that this incident took place is a shock, i mean what was security doing?

Today stone, tommorow hand grenade?!

Deferring in this case to your sound understanding of the Pakistani terrorist mind; so true.

However let me point out that Shahid Afridi is likely entirely safe. He is as they say well connected. His cousin, late cousin courtesy of India’s Border Security Force, was no less than a commander of the Harkat ul Ansar.

With that clear and present danger, the Pakistan Cricket Board should immediately pull out of the tour. Having been most understanding of South Africa, West Indies and New Zealand’s cancellation of their respective tours of Pakistan on account of “security threats”, nothing less is expected.

I however hope that they will not be bullied by President General Musharraf’s desire to visit India to view a match.

Jay · 04-07-2005, 11:24 AM

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It only takes one moronic bullet, to ruin your rep forever (please let it hit Afridi)....

Well, yeah, thats the chance we took when we send our players to play in Pakistan. Remember how much tight security they needed in Pakistan??

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The simple fact that this incident took place is a shock, i mean what was security doing?

Honestly, we didnt have security like we had in Pakistan. Simply bcoz no one has harmed any cricketer in India, not today, not yesterday.

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Today stone, tommorow hand grenade?!

Hand grenades are common in Pakistan and Pakistan trained terrorists, not with Indian public. We are contempt with home made petrol bombs...

This stone throwing is not new to Cricket or Pakistan. I assure you that its not tit for tat, just some dumb nitwit's wortless job...but you seem to think that Pakistanis are/were saints. I'm going to disprove and dispel the myth....

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Today we bring you another depressing tale of crowd misbehaviour in Pakistan. This time, it was the turn of Sachin Tendulkar's Indian team at Karachi, which was at the receiving end.

When Tendulkar and his men landed at the Qaid-e-Azam airport in Karachi in 1997 for the Wills Challenge Cup to be played in Pakistan, there was a 1,000-strong security force at the airport to protect them. An elaborate wall of security was provided. The Pakistan Cricket Board had assured adequate security.

September 30, 1997. The Commissioner of Police in Karachi had said that over 8,000 Rangers had been deployed to guard the main roads leading to the National Stadium in Karachi. The cops had instructed that spectators were not allowed to take in cameras, water bottles and eatables inside the stadium.

Somehow, the troublesome elements were able to get into the stadium. Left-arm spinner Nilesh Kulkarni was the first target. Soon, it was the turn of Debashish Mohanty, Ajay Jadeja, Vinod Kambli and finally Sourav Ganguly,

When Ganguly was hit by a stone, skipper Sachin decided enough was enough and decided to take his players off the field Match referee Ranjan Madugalle too was upset over the incidents of stone-throwing and agreed with Tendulkar that the players were not safe on the field and that the players were right in coming off the field. The Pakistani team, however, differed with this view and quite naturally blamed the Indians for the walk-out.

http://www.chennaionline.com/cricket...es/clash03.asp

If the Indian team has grave doubts about the safety parameters in Karachi, the apprehensions are genuine, judged by Karachi's poor track record. The Indian captain of the 1989 tour, Krishnamachari Srikkanth, was a victim on the Karachi cricket ground when he was targeted by a spectator who rushed on to the ground. The third One Day International played in Karachi on December 20, 1989, was later abandoned with Pakistan struggling at 28 for three wickets.

http://www.chennaionline.com/cricket...es/clash02.asp

so preach your mantra somewhere else. We will make sure that it'll not happen again, but dont post your unruly mob mentality here.

I mean, give me a break, he's complaining bcoz the crowd didnt lend support to Pakistan. From whcih F'ckin world is he from!!! jeez!!

hammer · 04-07-2005, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by platinum786

Today stone, tommorow hand grenade?!

We dont allow the public to own illegal weapons and showoff publicly in India .. unlike in certain neighboring countries.insults apart , i agree whoever threw the stone dont have the sympathies of local population or else why would they throw just one stone?!

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Originally Posted by platinum786

What is your problem folks....first the poor reception....i mean granted you took a beating but....we took some defeats too in Pakistan, and your players, media everyone could only sing praises of our hospitality.

We took a beating?! the test series was a draw. we have won the first two one dayers! and you took "some" defeats in Pakistan ?!! man we drubbed you badly. we won the series remember.your hospitality was great agreed and it is not something one brags about. anyway you leave me no other option. here i am posting some quotes from OUTLOOK (march 21,2005) ..

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The PCA did its bit to foster Punjabiyat,albeit inadvertently,when it asked chandigarh residents if they could help lodge some visiting Pakistanis since hotels and rest houses could fall short.The response was overwhelming and Punjabis thronged the sector 16 cricket stadium to take home pakistani families from the stream of buses emptying their passengers from Wagah.

(pg 58)

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Not just the chiefminister,but lesser mortals too touched the Pakistanis in small ways. Manmohan singh, proprietor of Hotel Aroma, for instance, pulled out his two vintage cars and an antique horse-drawn buggy to ferry Pakistani guests staying at his hotel to the cricket stadium. Most Hotels arranged for a special namaaz room complete with compass, a tumbler of water and mat for the guests. There were free dinners by local hotels, free shows of Veer Zaara and Mughal-e-Azam and much more.

(pg 62)

I will try to get an online link for this article . BTW my point is ..dont generalize the population.No stereotyping please.and also please do read about the spontaneous standing ovation given by the Madras crowd in 1999 test series.

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Originally Posted by platinum786

Okay, so you resentour creation and hate out existance, so don't return the hospitality, but allowing mobs to stone the teams bus....that is low.

hopeless.

hammer · 04-07-2005, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Jay

I mean, give me a break, he's complaining bcoz the crowd didnt lend support to Pakistan. From whcih F'ckin world is he from!!! jeez!!

come on Jay take a wild guess...

platinum786 · 04-07-2005, 11:51 AM

u hate seeps thru

Jay · 04-07-2005, 12:14 PM

oh really, who gave ideas about grenades...eh?

For crying out loud, this guys may very well be pissed off bcoz Pakistan won the 3rd test match, who knows. But Platinum here already went overboard talking about grenades and is bragging about Pakistani hospitality. Jeez!!

lemontree · 04-07-2005, 13:16 PM

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Originally Posted by platinum786

The simple fact that this incident took place is a shock, i mean what was security doing?

The security was doing the same thing that your security was doing in 1997.

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Today stone, tommorow hand grenade?!

The grenades are being thrown by the the relatives of Pakistani cricketers, not us. The Pakistani team is the only one in the world that has the previlage of having team members whos' relatives are terrorists.

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Okay, so you resentour creation and hate out existance, so don't return the hospitality, but allowing mobs to stone the teams bus....that is low.

Now who is showing the hatred?

Asim Aquil · 04-07-2005, 21:52 PM

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Deferring in this case to your sound understanding of the Pakistani terrorist mind; so true.

And you're a racist bas-turd

Karthik · 04-07-2005, 22:35 PM

Whoever threw that stone is an loathsome dunderhead.

But to draw a conclusion that the Indian reception to the visiting team was bad would be totally wrong. I was listening to some of the Pakistani cricketers speak on television. They seem to be very appreciative of the atmosphere. So I dunno what this hue and cry is all about.

Ray · 04-07-2005, 23:13 PM

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And you're a racist bas-turd

Bhai ko bhai pehchana?

04-07-2005, 05:49 AM	#1 (permalink)
Asim Aquil Banished *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 06-11-04 Location: Dubai Posts: 8,135 Country:	Stone thrown on Pakistani Cricket team bus http://inhome.rediff.com/cricket/2005/apr/07stone.htm This is appalling! Indian cricket fans are very narrowly superceded by those English soccer hooligans. They need to keep the game as what it is, the game!

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Karthik Seeker of Rivendell *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 12-15-04 Posts: 1,569 Country:	I was there for the Bangalore test. For an entire day's play. The article is hyperbolic. The Pakistani team members spoke on television during a party in Kolkata, and they were extremely appreciative of the reception they were getting in India. When the players themselves say it, that's enough. We care less on what the others think.

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Jay Tamizhanban *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 08-06-03 Location: Edison, NJ Posts: 6,345 Country:	oh really, who gave ideas about grenades...eh? For crying out loud, this guys may very well be pissed off bcoz Pakistan won the 3rd test match, who knows. But Platinum here already went overboard talking about grenades and is bragging about Pakistani hospitality. Jeez!!

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Karthik Seeker of Rivendell *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 12-15-04 Posts: 1,569 Country:	Whoever threw that stone is an loathsome dunderhead. But to draw a conclusion that the Indian reception to the visiting team was bad would be totally wrong. I was listening to some of the Pakistani cricketers speak on television. They seem to be very appreciative of the atmosphere. So I dunno what this hue and cry is all about.

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