Dalai clique unqualified for talking about human rights

FOE · 05-01-2008, 08:05 AM

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Dalai clique unqualified for talking about human rights
(Xinhua)
Updated: 2008-05-01 14:52

BEIJING -- The People's Daily, the mouthpiece of the Communist Party of China (CPC), has published a signed article that said the Dalai Lama has no right to talk about human rights issues.

The article, entitled "The 'Tibet Issue' has nothing to do with human rights," was written by the paper's columnist He Zhenhua, who has recently published numerous articles criticizing the Dalai Lama and supporting patriotism among Chinese readers.

According to He, the old Tibet, under the rule of the Dalai clique, practiced the notorious political system of slavery, by dividing Tibetans into different classes. There was a small group of slave owners, who accounted for merely 5 percent of the total Tibetan population at that time, reigning over the rest of the Tibetans.

In old Tibet, slave owners subjected slaves to economic exploitation, political oppression and spiritual control, according to the article. It quoted a French scholar on the study of Tibet as saying that there was absolutely no human freedom for Tibetan slaves in the past, and "the 1 million Tibetan slaves have enjoyed authentic democracy, freedom and human rights since the Peaceful Liberation of Tibet (in 1951)."

It advised the Dalai clique to take care of its own human rights problems, referring to the living conditions of exiled Tibetans in India.

Most exiled Tibetans live in the slums of Dharmsala, the "capital" of the "Tibetan government-in-exile," in India, and they have to hand over "independence donations" to the "government-in-exile," the article said, without elaborating.

The exiled Tibetans, who are suffering from linguistic and emotional barriers, enjoy no human rights at all, it claimed.

The article cited the "Universal Declaration of Human Rights" to support its view, to deny the claims of the Dalai clique and assert that Tibetans have enjoyed their rights since the Peaceful Liberation of Tibet.

According to the article, the Tibet Autonomous Region has for years maintained an average of 12 percent annual growth, while the government has provided free medical services to rural people and free education and food to their children. Tibetan residents are now experiencing fast growth in private housing, it said.

In the early years of its exile, the Dalai clique disturbed the life of border residents in Tibet by force, the article said. In recent years, it tried to infiltrate or plot and stir up violence in Tibet, which has been detrimental to the lives and developing rights of Tibetans, the article said.

The article concluded by saying that the Dalai clique has tried to stimulate ethnic sentiments and win support from the West, so as to realize the "Independence of Tibet" and split China.

Freely speech!!!

Though they did so many no-human-rights things,let they talk!

Bigfella · 05-01-2008, 08:45 AM

FOE, I would like to thank you for this and other threads you have started.

It is just possible that conversations with one or two of the more sophisticated pro-CCP propagandists on these boards might lead some of us to lose sight of the true nature of the regime in China. The crude propaganda that you are posting is a powerful reminder of just how vile the CCP regime is.

It is also a reminder that this is the 'truth' that the CCp surrounds its citizens with from birth. It is little wonder that any attempt to challenge these 'truths' is met with hysteria. This is your reality. Your government has invested untold bilions in ensuring that by the time you are old enough to think for yourself you don't know how to.

Thank you for reminding us just how warped the CCP view of the world is.

dave lukins · 05-01-2008, 08:47 AM

Signed by whom?

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written by the paper's columnist

Is he a non-member of the CCP? Is this an independent paper?

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It quoted a French scholar on the study of Tibet

And his name is? and where can we read this Tome of Enlightenment, please send Link with your reply

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The exiled Tibetans, who are suffering from linguistic and emotional barriers, enjoy no human rights at all

Any evidence of this barbarity and slave trade is to be read/found where?

FOE · 05-01-2008, 09:58 AM

[quote=Bigfella;491221]FOE, I would like to thank you for this and other threads you have started.
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It is just possible that conversations with one or two of the more sophisticated pro-CCP propagandists on these boards might lead some of us to lose sight of the true nature of the regime in China. The crude propaganda that you are posting is a powerful reminder of just how vile the CCP regime is.

First,I'm not a propagandist of CPC and I do not want to lead some of you to lose sight of the true nature of the regime in China,oppositely,I want to give you the right sight of the nature in China.
Second ,It is crude but not a propaganda!!Because it not need and I'm not a propagandist

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It is also a reminder that this is the 'truth' that the CCp surrounds its citizens with from birth. It is little wonder that any attempt to challenge these 'truths' is met with hysteria.

Your words also a reminder that this is the 'truth' that your gov surrounds its citizens with from birth.!!!
It is little wonder that any attempt to challenge YOUR 'truths' is met with hysteria.

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Your government has invested untold bilions in ensuring that by the time you are old enough to think for yourself you don't know how to.

Of course,you can not believe this.But it's true!In China,there are many many things which you cannot believe ,but you didn't want to trust me.Is this also surrounds of your country to you?

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Thank you for reminding us just how warped the CCP view of the world is.

Thank you for reminding us just how warped YOUR COUNTRY AND YOUR MEDIA view of the world is.

Maybe you are right,maybe I .

Just wait and in the futrue we will know!

Ray · 05-01-2008, 10:02 AM

Foe,

You must also post the link.

So, the Tibetans with Dalai Lama in Dharamshala are without liberties?

That is surprsiing since a whole lot of foreign dignitaries visit that area and they have not complained nor have the ever active human rights organisations, both Indian and foreign.

Could it be that this is a Capitalist plot to defame the glorious struggle of the Peasants and Workers?

FOE · 05-01-2008, 10:09 AM

Dalai clique unqualified for talking about human rights

FOE · 05-01-2008, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by dave lukins

Signed by whom?
Is he a non-member of the CCP? Is this an independent paper?

And his name is? and where can we read this Tome of Enlightenment, please send Link with your reply

Any evidence of this barbarity and slave trade is to be read/found where?

If you have any questions, comments, suggestions or news tips to tell Chinadaily.com.cn,

Write to:

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Tel: +86(10) 84883300
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Good Luck!Dave!

FullTank · 05-01-2008, 11:30 AM

Definitely more qualified than the CCP.

astralis · 05-01-2008, 13:45 PM

fulltank,

sorry, i'm no CCP apologist but i doubt that. even disregarding this article, let me know when the dalai's boys raise several hundred million people out of abject poverty.

**Ironduke** · 05-01-2008, 14:03 PM

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Originally Posted by FOE

If you have any questions, comments, suggestions or news tips to tell Chinadaily.com.cn

That newspaper is wholly owned by the Communist Part of China.

FOE · 05-01-2008, 14:13 PM

I know you do not trust CPC just like I do not trust CNN.
Do you know CNN is wholly owned by capitalists?

Ray · 05-01-2008, 14:20 PM

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Originally Posted by astralis

fulltank,

sorry, i'm no CCP apologist but i doubt that. even disregarding this article, let me know when the dalai's boys raise several hundred million people out of abject poverty.

Good point.The CCP marched into Tibet in 1950. When did they raise the several hundred million people out of abject poverty?

Why did the Communists first address the Hans plight and then, after considerable time, address the minorities.

In 1950, it was still colonial times and breaking. How much of Asia was out of abject poverty?

Must look at the times then and not apply today's context to judge history!!

Apples and Oranges!!

**Officer of Engineers** · 05-01-2008, 14:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Ray

Why did the Communists first address the Hans plight and then, after considerable time, address the minorities.

A matter of practicality, Sir. When Deng 1st opened up China, he set up zones where Western Firms could easily set up shops. Those happens to be major Chinese centers such as Hong Kong and Shanghai. The infrastructures of power, sewer, and a work force were already there. Nothing of the sort existed in the nether regions of China ... except maybe for Lop Nor but I doubt any Western firm would want to do business there, at least not those who are not fronts for the CIA.

Ray · 05-01-2008, 14:24 PM

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Originally Posted by FOE

I know you do not trust CPC just like I do not trust CNN.
Do you know CNN is wholly owned by capitalists?

Do you know that China is owned by wannabe Capitalists, who have but recently exchanged their Mao suit for designer wear of the Capitalist West?

In other words, sold their soul and their ideology to the hated West?

Now give me some nice poetic homilies and pious platitude to obfuscate the disgrace and shame that the Chinese Communist, who have risen to where they are only because of Mao, has heaped on Mao and his policies by selling themselves to the hated West!!

Waiting for the CCP party line to hide the most disgraceful act.

Ray · 05-01-2008, 14:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Officer of Engineers

A matter of practicality, Sir. When Deng 1st opened up China, he set up zones where Western Firms could easily set up shops. Those happens to be major Chinese centers such as Hong Kong and Shanghai. The infrastructures of power, sewer, and a work force were already there. Nothing of the sort existed in the nether regions of China ... except maybe for Lop Nor but I doubt any Western firm would want to do business there, at least not those who are not fronts for the CIA.

Colonel,

I would beg to disagree.

It was Han first and Han always.

All this love for the minority is just to ensure Han supremacy and nothing more!

I am being very practical and without emotion!

The nether areas were not opened up to the West not because of any other reason, but because the loyalty of the minority was questionable and still not converted and opening them up to the West would have ensured they are lost forever.

The Khampa rebels is believed to be a US ploy!

05-01-2008, 08:45 AM	#2 (permalink)
Bigfella Contributor Join Date: 01-12-07 Location: Melbourne Posts: 571 Country:	FOE, I would like to thank you for this and other threads you have started. It is just possible that conversations with one or two of the more sophisticated pro-CCP propagandists on these boards might lead some of us to lose sight of the true nature of the regime in China. The crude propaganda that you are posting is a powerful reminder of just how vile the CCP regime is. It is also a reminder that this is the 'truth' that the CCp surrounds its citizens with from birth. It is little wonder that any attempt to challenge these 'truths' is met with hysteria. This is your reality. Your government has invested untold bilions in ensuring that by the time you are old enough to think for yourself you don't know how to. Thank you for reminding us just how warped the CCP view of the world is. __________________ Win nervously lose tragically - Reds C C

05-01-2008, 10:02 AM	#5 (permalink)
Ray Postmaster General *Military Professional* Join Date: 08-20-03 Posts: 24,976 Country:	Foe, You must also post the link. So, the Tibetans with Dalai Lama in Dharamshala are without liberties? That is surprsiing since a whole lot of foreign dignitaries visit that area and they have not complained nor have the ever active human rights organisations, both Indian and foreign. Could it be that this is a Capitalist plot to defame the glorious struggle of the Peasants and Workers? __________________ "Some have learnt many Tricks of sly Evasion, Instead of Truth they use Equivocation, And eke it out with mental Reservation, Which is to good Men an Abomination." I don't have to attend every argument I'm invited to. HAKUNA MATATA

05-01-2008, 11:30 AM	#8 (permalink)
FullTank Patron Join Date: 07-11-07 Location: West Des Moines, Iowa Posts: 259	Definitely more qualified than the CCP. __________________ God is a cruise missile.

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astralis Lei Feng Protege *Foreign Service* Join Date: 08-23-05 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 2,772 Country:	fulltank, sorry, i'm no CCP apologist but i doubt that. even disregarding this article, let me know when the dalai's boys raise several hundred million people out of abject poverty. __________________ Never let the future disturb you. You will meet it, if you have to, with the same weapons of reason which today arm you against the present. -Marcus Aurelius, Meditations

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