Dalai clique unqualified for talking about human rights - Page 5

nebula82 · 05-04-2008, 14:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Ray

I wouldn't know and I really don't care.

It is what is bandied by the jingos.

Huh?

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Originally Posted by Ray

I am a person of the present.

And it is the present that worries me!

It doesn't worry me as to whose is the longest or the shortest. What concerns me, is what is the most efficient!

Fair enough, it is the here & now, and the future we should be looking at.

Thx & good night,
Nebula82.

Ray · 05-04-2008, 14:29 PM

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Originally Posted by nebula82

Huh?

Fair enough, it is the here & now, and the future we should be looking at.

Thx & good night,
Nebula82.

What earth shaking comment have you made?

1947 · 05-05-2008, 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by FOE

I know you do not trust CPC just like I do not trust CNN.
Do you know CNN is wholly owned by capitalists?

yes but the western world has a variety of other INDEPENDENT newspapers NOT OWNED by the GOVERNMENT

Mobbme · 05-06-2008, 03:47 AM

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Originally Posted by FOE

I'm so sorry to hear that!
Freely speech is not a problem in china now! No fear to say !Now maybe the problem is many young want to find sth. to say to show they are cool!

yes, i hate reprssion,too.but as a man not in china,how can you say there is repression in china" to a man who is in china now???

Well, thats really good for you I guess. While i've been up, I looked it up and found that "India ranks 120th worldwide in press freedom index." That being said, I doubt its much better than your situation.

The reasons why:

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However this right is subject to restrictions under subclause (2), whereby this freedom can be restricted for reasons of "sovereignty and integrity of India, the security of the State, friendly relations with foreign States, public order, preserving decency, preserving morality, in relation to contempt of court, defamation, or incitement to an offence". Laws such as the Official Secrets Act and Prevention of Terrorism Act [12] (PoTA) have been used to limit press freedom. Under PoTA, person could be detained for up to six months for being in contact with a terrorist or terrorist group. PoTA was repealed in 2006, but the Official Secrets Act 1923 continues.

I do see why its benefial for the Indian government, but its still not as free as the west.

EDIT: Got the full list. India's actually a bit further from the middle, whereas China is closer to the last.

So I guess China's

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Although the 1982 constitution guarantees freedom of speech

is bullocks.

Ray · 05-06-2008, 07:04 AM

People working with sensitive information are commonly required to sign a statement to the effect that they agree to abide by the restrictions of the Official Secrets Act. This is popularly referred to as "signing the Official Secrets Act". Signing this has no effect on which actions are legal as the act is not a contract. As the act is law individuals are bound by it whether or not they have signed it, signing it is intended more as a reminder to the person that they are under such obligations. To this end, it is common to sign this statement both before and after a period of employment that involves access to secrets.

The Indian Official Secrets Act is the extension of the British Official Secrets Act.

Am I to understand in Canada, one can leak out sensitive information like operational plans etc? If so, Canada is a real free county.

And by the way, we have Right to Information Act. I thought I should let you know so that you do not belabour under wrong information or purvey the same, without understanding its meaning!

POTA is no longer in vogue. You of course would not understand why POTA was there because you have no idea as to what a terrorist is!! Let a couple of cities have bomb blast and let a few 1000 die and you will realise the same.

The US has the Patriot Act. By your index, the US is not a free country!!

The Patriot Act is like POTA (though no longer in vogue) and it is against terrorists!

**Officer of Engineers** · 05-07-2008, 00:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Ray

Am I to understand in Canada, one can leak out sensitive information like operational plans etc? If so, Canada is a real free county.

Sir,

As with your country, those who knows shut up. Those who don't bullcrap. You will note, Sir, that all military professionals on this board based their postings on publicly available information. In fact, we do not extrpolulate based upon that publicly available info.

Sir, you and I can look at a map and see what our people are going to do next even though we have not been briefed ... but we say nothing ... just in case that we are right and give the other side that knowledge.

tankie · 05-07-2008, 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Officer of Engineers

Sir,

As with your country, those who knows shut up. Those who don't bullcrap. You will note, Sir, that all military professionals on this board based their postings on publicly available information. In fact, we do not extrpolulate based upon that publicly available info.

Sir, you and I can look at a map and see what our people are going to do next even though we have not been briefed ... but we say nothing ... just in case that we are right and give the other side that knowledge.

Well said Col.

Ray · 05-07-2008, 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Officer of Engineers

Sir,

As with your country, those who knows shut up. Those who don't bullcrap. You will note, Sir, that all military professionals on this board based their postings on publicly available information. In fact, we do not extrpolulate based upon that publicly available info.

Sir, you and I can look at a map and see what our people are going to do next even though we have not been briefed ... but we say nothing ... just in case that we are right and give the other side that knowledge.

Tankie beat me to the draw.

Indeed, well said!

tankie · 05-07-2008, 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Ray

Tankie beat me to the draw.

Indeed, well said!

Only by a single malt Sir.

Ray · 05-07-2008, 14:13 PM

I am have a swig of White Mischief right now!!

tankie · 05-08-2008, 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Ray

I am have a swig of White Mischief right now!!

Never heard of that brand Sir , but i will give it a look out

art · 05-08-2008, 05:17 AM

I post a reply on this article on China Daily Website - Connecting China Connecting the World and it never made it thru, it got sensored out, just typical for a CCP web page.

dave lukins · 05-08-2008, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by tankie

Never heard of that brand Sir , but i will give it a look out

Not your tipple dear boy, I do believe it's Vodka

Ray · 05-08-2008, 09:20 AM

So called vodka!!

I prefer Absolut or the Russian brand, the spelling of which I can never remember!

Knaur Amarsh · 05-08-2008, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Ray

So called vodka!!

I prefer Absolut or the Russian brand, the spelling of which I can never remember!

Absolut

.......but then again,I am not a vodka person

Smirnoff seems fine though....as far as vodkas go i.e.

05-06-2008, 07:04 AM	#65 (permalink)
Ray Postmaster General *Military Professional* Join Date: 08-20-03 Posts: 24,972 Country:	People working with sensitive information are commonly required to sign a statement to the effect that they agree to abide by the restrictions of the Official Secrets Act. This is popularly referred to as "signing the Official Secrets Act". Signing this has no effect on which actions are legal as the act is not a contract. As the act is law individuals are bound by it whether or not they have signed it, signing it is intended more as a reminder to the person that they are under such obligations. To this end, it is common to sign this statement both before and after a period of employment that involves access to secrets. The Indian Official Secrets Act is the extension of the British Official Secrets Act. Am I to understand in Canada, one can leak out sensitive information like operational plans etc? If so, Canada is a real free county. And by the way, we have Right to Information Act. I thought I should let you know so that you do not belabour under wrong information or purvey the same, without understanding its meaning! POTA is no longer in vogue. You of course would not understand why POTA was there because you have no idea as to what a terrorist is!! Let a couple of cities have bomb blast and let a few 1000 die and you will realise the same. The US has the Patriot Act. By your index, the US is not a free country!! The Patriot Act is like POTA (though no longer in vogue) and it is against terrorists! Last edited by Ray : 05-06-2008 at 07:06 AM.

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Ray Postmaster General *Military Professional* Join Date: 08-20-03 Posts: 24,972 Country:	I am have a swig of White Mischief right now!!

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art New Member Join Date: 02-04-08 Location: Guam Posts: 6	I post a reply on this article on China Daily Website - Connecting China Connecting the World and it never made it thru, it got sensored out, just typical for a CCP web page.

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Ray Postmaster General *Military Professional* Join Date: 08-20-03 Posts: 24,972 Country:	So called vodka!! I prefer Absolut or the Russian brand, the spelling of which I can never remember!

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