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Old 05-01-2008, 16:02 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Thanks for your advice!
Maybe I should speak less!!!But do you think this forum need more voice of difference?
Educated voices. At least go and educate yourself 1st.
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Old 05-01-2008, 16:06 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Indeed, this forum requires thousand flowers to bloom!

But they must be logical and supported.

You can't expect a daisy to bloom in the North Ole can you?
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Old 05-01-2008, 16:09 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Educated voices. At least go and educate yourself 1st.
I agree I should educate myself!Thanks!
There is a problem"why are there so many chinese people want to tell the westers what's condition in our chinese mind?"
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Indeed, this forum requires thousand flowers to bloom!

But they must be logical and supported.

You can't expect a daisy to bloom in the North Ole can you?
I will!
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Old 05-01-2008, 16:14 PM   #35 (permalink)
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I agree I should educate myself!Thanks!
There is a problem"why are there so many chinese people want to tell the westers what's condition in our chinese mind?"
No problem really.

If we are wrong we are wrong.

You have to prove that we are wrong with logic and not with homilies of the CCP.

Please understand, our minds have been allowed to grow without the ''guidance'' of our govts. Hence, we can think.

Our logic and analysis remains beyond dictation.

If indeed you can prove we are wrong, I shall be the first one to admit it so!!

However, homilies and pious platitudes do not impress me!
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You have some parts of it right. The Tibetans are living better lives than ever. It was the CCP who brought in the prosperity. Doesn't mean that no one else could not have done it but the CCP was the one who done and should deserve credit for that.

HOWEVER, the very fact that you've got such a lethal riot indicates that not all is good. There are some very serious problems and thus far, not one of you new posters have addressed any of those issues. Why did the Tibetans rioted? It's very easy to blame the Dali Lama but why would they support the DL?

Have you asked those questions yet?
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I need a sleep!Bye!Next time continue!
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The Moderators seems to have given you Permanent Sleep on this forum.

Sweet Dreams!
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Old 05-03-2008, 01:44 AM   #40 (permalink)
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sorry, i'm no CCP apologist but i doubt that. even disregarding this article, let me know when the dalai's boys raise several hundred million people out of abject poverty.
As soon as they first kill a few million that include chinese and tibetians. They need to first bring the bar to the same level.

Let me know if you'll find it easier to be a PRC apologist(if not a CCP apologist) if Han chinese were to be ruled by someone else...especially if they force on the hans, free japanese education.

Blatant race favoritism is difficult to hide. The Yellow mans burden is true after all.
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Blatant race favoritism is difficult to hide. The Yellow mans burden is true after all.
I find that extremely offensive considering both Astralis and I stood against the very idea of the CCP. Astralis is an American who works in the Foreign Service.

You will not use those terms again.
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Colonel,

Don't get angry.

I too love India and I too display the same beyond rationale!!

To a disinterested observer, it shows! When the logic appear weak in their eyes and they may be totally wrong!!

You all laugh at me when I say Perceptions! Indeed, it is Perceptions at play and not the intent!!

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There are some very serious problems and thus far, not one of you new posters have addressed any of those issues. Why did the Tibetans rioted? It's very easy to blame the Dali Lama but why would they support the DL?
Wasn't it started because some monks were beat up while they were protesting inside their temples? Although, I have to say that without interviews with the arrested rioters you really can't get a good idea of their reasons. The original protesters may be mainly comprised of deeply devout Tibetans, but later, it could have been people who just saw an opportunity to burn and loot. It's hard to tell without further evidence.

As for supporting DL, if a Tibetan isn't happy with the current gov't, then he doesn't have a lot of choices. I personally find the DL fairly ineffective, he's spent half a century campaigning for Tibetan Independence, then autonomy, and I seriously don't see any significant progress that can be attributed to his actions.
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Colonel,

Don't get angry.

I too love India and I too display the same beyond rationale!!

To a disinterested observer, it shows! When the logic appear weak in their eyes and they may be totally wrong!!

You all laugh at me when I say Perceptions! Indeed, it is Perceptions at play and not the intent!!
Angry!! the Brigadier never gets angry.Perhaps we will at last hear his Battle Cry.."Bolo Hindustan Ki Jai"
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Angry!! the Brigadier never gets angry.Perhaps we will at last hear his Battle Cry.."Bolo Hindustan Ki Jai"
Lukins saab, "Hindustan" is now passe, it is "Bharat Maa" these days.
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