Originally Posted by troung

He really shouldn't the CCP, their police, their army and their supporters are a bunch of goons and thugs. Plus he is in America - where he has the freedom to criticize a group of criminals.

Tired of this crap, people can deny rights to millions, murder and jail on a whim and can't take being called thugs. What type of thin skinned stupid crap is that? Whine and ***** while oppressing people to show they are tough but can't take criticism for being murdering thugs.

Originally Posted by Ray

The significance of sociocultural influences such as racial identification or racial discrimination as either psychosocial or social contextual factors is essential for understanding behavioural responses.

The response that life is short and hence one should not be depressed is a sociocultural influence that can be expected from those who have oriental religious influence that make up their community psyche. I am not meaning that they have to be of an oriental religious affiliation to have this psyche, and instead I mean that their historical national religious influences that have shaped their national psyche.

The response of the Afro Americans, in this situation, may not be of the same psychological response as suggested since the influence of their history and sociocultural environment and their genetic mindset maybe different.

One of the factors that generates negative emotional dynamics is self pity. This is applicable to all races. In case of a race or nation perceiving it being denied justice or even handed fairplay, the emotional dynamics are powerful and, at times, irrational since logic gets blurred. It is interesting to note that this perception is self generated through external stimuli like events or cultural inequality and unequal opportunities and when it spans a large cross section of a race or nation, it becomes a hardboiled belief, resulting in community self pity that is difficult to eradicated whatever modes be applied to ease out the, at times, misplaced perceptions.

Originally Posted by UnderSpin

Well said. This macro view says that individuals in a culture are constrained by the socio-cultural influence and their psychological responses follow a specific pattern for that culture.

If we go one step further and take the micro view of the society, we’ll see that a few “culture elite” are less constrained by the influence, and actively shape the socio-cultural influence. When Dr. Martin Luther King was leading the civil right movement, this self pity mindset was not typical for African-Americans. Now they have considerably more civil rights, their leaders embrace self pity. Do we know who introduced this self pity mindset to their culture and why?

There is an interesting parallel to this. Chinese in Taiwan and mainland shared the same historical misfortune and humiliation during the Qing Dynasty. Yet, we don’t have this self pity crap in Taiwan. Where did they get this crap?

Originally Posted by Ray

Could it be a Communist sleight of hand?

In my State, (Communsit ruled for 20 plus years), all the faults of the State govt is blamed on the Central (Federal) Govt.

And people believed it!!

Self pity fills the void in the pocket and the stomach!!

Originally Posted by UnderSpin

Self pity also numbs the mind and squeezes out the heart.

I observed politicians use self pity and a sequence of I-you-they messages to gain power without doing anything for the people:

I feel your pain. I am on your side.
You are blameless. You are a victim of injustice. You are entitled to anger and revenge.
They mistreated you. They hurt you. They are your enemy.
I’ll lead you to beat them up and seek revenge.

The end result is that most people are trapped in the victimhood mentality, an enemy is created, and the politician gains the power to manipulate those people. And people believe this crap!

Originally Posted by hx37

Thanks for replying Underspin. It sounds like he'll be a great leader then, with all of those qualities. I hope his charisma can rub off on the CCP leadership, all those missiles pointing across the strait does not make me sleep well at night

Originally Posted by astralis

underspin,

not the same thing. western imperialism didn't figure much into taiwan's history after the dutch were expelled by koxinga (except for a brief period in the Opium and Sino-French War).

then japanese imperialism on taiwan was a different sort from the imperialism the japanese used in china. taiwan was going to be their model colony, with plans for absorbing it into japan proper. thus, they were lighter on the taiwanese and built it up better.

on the other hand, japan treated mainland china (manchukuo included) as one big factory, sales outlet, and weapon experimentation center. they wanted a servile anti-communist puppet to rule china, thus the wang jingwei regime.

humiliation hit china harder. plus, in the case of the ROC, chiang kai-shek signed away demands for reparations in '45, and actively tried to tamp down anti-japanese sentiments for the sake of japanese foreign aid. the PRC was far less inclined to do such a thing, and only tamped down anti-japanese sentiments in the decade of the 80s.

Originally Posted by astralis

underspin,



yes, but two things:

1. the unpopularity of the japanese and the western powers never hit taiwan as heavily, despite the influence of the waishengren. this was partly because of taiwan's history which i just alluded to (it is harder for people to feel things that did not directly impact, say, their parents or relatives), partly because of

2. chiang kai-shek's main focus here was anti-communism as the form of nationalism, not anti-japanese or anti-western powers. he was reliant on western aid (mainly american) while obviously the CCP was not. history textbooks were not going to be written to piss off their benefactors.

i remember some of the old-school textbooks of my parents which referred to the communist bandits, etc.

Originally Posted by mthambi

I am waiting for an apology from the Chinese govt.

Here is another picture:

"A Chinese student (red cap) kicks a South Korean who was protesting against the Beijing Olympics"