goodamanda

It is unimportant whether I understand economics. I am just a civilian. What I can do is when sth happened, face up to it.

Triple C

For starters, you can disconnect your internet from your PC. Get back to subsistance farming. Stop using gasoline and electric power. Do not take any jobs that cater to foreign consumption. Do not work in any business that has foreign investors.

When you have done all of the above, you are more than welcome to come back and report to your ability to "face up to it."

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pravin

NO WESTERN MARKET NO CHINESE MONEY AS SIMPLE AS THAT.EVEN CHANGES OF LAWS REGARDIN IMPORTS OR EXPORTS IN WESTERN MARKETS CAN CAUSE PROBLEMS IN CHINA.I heard there is little local market for the goods produced
in CHINA.

pravin

GREAT ANSWER 1947 AWESOMEE!!

ace16807

If you mean, casualties of war as a direct result of the US military or any other direct means in which a US citizen or the US government inflicted deaths, I'm sure America is responsible for many deaths. Shall we go over how many deaths the CCP is responsible for???? 50 million lives lost as a result of Mao Zedong's policies, plus casualties inflicted during the Sino-Vietnamese War, Korean War, plus countless political executions. Indeed. Last I checked, the US never carried out mass political executions. Helluva government you got over there.

(Pravin, you don't need to use caps... they hurt eyes... X_X)

Officer of Engineers

A word of advice, do not use that number in front of real China/PLA watchers. It is an academic fraud the way that they've come up with that number. China's population did not go down by 50 million during those lean years. Instead, if a couple decided not to have children during those hard times, they counted that as a population loss. I don't know how they come up with that one. It is a natural law that you have to be born before you can die. If children were not borned, then how could they have died?

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hx37

I won't argue for the moral superiority of either side here. The US has its share of skeletons in the closet, so does China. I am more interested in the Iraq issue here. The most important being - what is the US getting out of it right now?

I see a lot of casualty figures on the news and a lot of explosions. I'm sure there are some good news that's not being reported, but I seriously do not see any economic benefit from occupying a nation that's draining billions of dollars each year.

lisa_C

en, i don't think the english is another weapons you attact me!
For in india, Enlish is the office language, and it isn't in china.

and I say it again i don't know how did you got those conclusions,that is your mind! not mine! don't try to put your opinion on me!
if you think it is usefull to your standpoint, keep going on!
Mr Pacific Ocean:
yea, you have been a old hand here. and just as you said maybe you are in the age like my grandparents. But that doesn't mean your perceive is right.Just like i thought you were angry there but you didn't!
Do you know China history?
?
They do be the Chinese sovereign province from the start of time!

PS: you know nothing about my work, just as you know little about China (even they are not right!)

Officer of Engineers

Yes I do.

No, they were not.

Simple Questions for Chinese Posters

ace16807

Out of curiosity then, what is a relatively accurate number for the legitimate loss of life (In this case, I suppose a non-existent baby isn't living, so it isn't life.) during his reign? I suppose this includes those killed by famine, disasters facilitated by Great Leap Forward policies, political deaths, so on?


Lisa_C, do you insist that non-Chinese know nothing of Chinese history, policy, and politics? That's ignorant to say the least. It even seems like you're a little ignorant of your own history. Let's assume the "start of time" is actually the start of China (Qin Empire.) You do realize, that the land controlled by that dynasty, was a mere fraction of what China is now, and by no means expands into Mongolia or Tibet. If you're considering the start of time, the formation of the CCP, we've got some issues here.

lisa_C

I don't know whether the number is right.
And the war you mentioned did happen in the history, there are many wars happened in the history, not only these.
There did political executions happened in China before, like the culture revolution, and one of my grandfather suffered from it.
but they are happened 30 years ago!
China is changing, and it is accepted that there is partly mistakes.
It is different now.

Officer of Engineers

Still speculation here. As stated, the Chinese population did not go down by 50 million. In fact, it still went up, just not as fast as predicted.

These were hungry times to be very sure. But there was no evidence of an Ethiopia. No villages disappear with people going off in search of food. There were reported days ... but not weeks where people had no food.

So, I don't doubt that people did die either directly or indirectly through the scarcity of food but nothing on the scale of a Somalia or an Ethiopia. Also, did the old die faster ... or was it that they were just old? We don't know. You have to remember that before this was WWII, so that people generally were not living any longer before.

Political deaths are somewhat easier though not for certain. Over 3 million were displaced from their homes and sent elsewhere. Very few came back home ... but then, some just stayed where they were instead of coming back home.

I have some confidence in the 2 million dead mark but that's based upon a lot of assumptions not shared by others, especially those who tout the 50 million mark.

Albany Rifles

Maybe India doesn't sell weapons, but India buy weapons from USA, right?


Well, so has China.

Also, I believe in Free Range Chicken and Free Range Beef. Is that the same?

Oh, as for Iraq? Maybe we should have invaded, maybe not. But we did. So that said it would be immoral to leave and not do our best to fix the problems...which we are doing.

What is China doing to stop the killing in Darfur...and the other parts of Africa?

It seems the US is supposed to fix all problems...but when we step in we are at fault for interfering.

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m1tch311

I am sooooo sick of the LIBERAL media making U.S. soldiers look like a bunch of baby killers. I reality the Iraqis keep killin each other and the U.S. gets stuck in the middle. Tibet also erks me, so many athletes bad mouth the Olympics yet they don't have ballz (or guts) to stand up for something and not participate.
done ranting
Thanks

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ace16807

That wasn't really liberal media by US definitions anymore. That was on the same level as CCP propaganda.