gunnut

From what I heard, the first child is free, meaning the couple (or woman, not sure how they keep track) can have a child and not pay anything extra. Anything after that will cost the couple money to get the necessary papers to obtain rights, benefits, education, health insurance, and other such government services. So as the colonel said, rich people can afford to have more children. Poor people can too, but anything after the first child will have problems with the system because he/she doesn't technically exist.

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Parihaka

Bolo, they haven't even started yet.

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Parihaka

Weren't there some black folks walking down the street as well?

Skywatcher

From the way Obama said it, it sounded like he meant his grandma was a typical coupon cutting, apple pie baking white grandparent (I don't know what the average American grandparents do then or currently, since both sets of mine lived in Taiwan)

OoE, Gunnut: Thanks for the info about the One Child policy. My professor said the same thing pretty much. Amazingly, there is a half assed report from one of the UC schools claiming the One Child policy worked (they collaborated with Chinese academics who could stand to lose their jobs if they told the truth about the demographic situation, so that says a lot about the methodology involved).

Any educated guesses on how much has China's population been underestimated by?

gunnut

From the way I understood it, he said his grandma was upset one day because a black man was asking her for change while she was at a bus stop, in a very aggressive manner.

I think the audio of this segment of his book was included in the youtube link I posted on the other thread.

ravi12

Nah, you miss the rustic charm of Indian politics. You can have politicians walking for hundreds of miles, eating grass in scams, say I ate money, what can you do?.
Damn it, the elections here in US are too subtle and clothed.

I always thought that global warming was a big scam, but the conspiracy theory generated heare has raised my tentacles higher :lol:

Gun Grape

We eat the fat ones first.

They are easy to catch. They cannot run fast and you can bait them with X-bots.

7thsfsniper

I've got some recipes that I picked up in South America.

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tiskew

We don't have a lotterry for this ,hehe.
Thing is every family is allowed to have 1 child, and for minorities such as Muslims, they can have two, and for Tibetans and some other minorities, they have no limitations. And if both of the parents are the "Single Child" , they can have 2 children, that's how the policy goes.

But since time has changed, here are the facts of the policy:

But first, the people's mobility is greater than ever now, it's really hard to control;
Second, the rural areas, local offices took inhuman ways to practice the law;
Third, now the expense of raising a kid is very high(cloth, toys, educations), people are tending to have less kids.

But there is a fact that the official figure of China's population is 1.3 billion people, that's difficult.

tiskew

Exactly, but one more thing is to have a climate change in 1 million years and 1 hundred years makes some difference here.

[quote=gunnut;491376]One man's waste is another man's treasure. The earth will reclaim everything that we have used. With or without our help./QUOTE]
Yes, but these highly concentrated forms are not natural , so they are not reclaimable. The crisis lays in Material and Energy in the end of the day. To recycle anything, it cost energy, to dump them, it cost land of course the material will not be enough.

Yes, agree. But Green Peace organizations will complain about the living condition of the Chickens, Cows and Pigs nowadays. If we don't feed them that way, I don't think we can afford to buy a chicken or piece of meat any time we want.

Which is actually the bigger problem than gas shortage will be the material shortage, look around, without plastic, our world will be a totally different thing.

Parihaka

Understanding that birth rates dropped as prosperity grew was my first basic understanding of the marketplace.

Ryan Bailey

Despite the dangers inherent in steering this discussion onward, I must proclaim with some pride my full support for the implementation of bio-fuels as an institution.

Several observations must be conceded by the commodity speculative sector currently campaigning against biofuels, and as such against western sovereignty in a Tantalus' nightmare world where our polity forbids us from exploiting our own oil and mineral wealth only yards beneath our feet.

Although my present internal combustion motor vehicle engines of personal and professional use include a GM Northstar "V-8", a Ford 6 cyl Flex Fuel ( which I have consistently used E85 in over the past several years fueling primarily in Louisville KY, Elisabethtown PA & the Washington DC area ) & a Dodge 5 cyl. Diesel, all of which average very high fuel efficiency, I will restrict my commentaries here to the dreaded "ethanol" which is highly misunderstood, n.b all unleaded gasoline fuel in my neck of the woods is now E10+ In the final analysis I am here making an agricultural argument rather than a petro-chemical one.

1. "Food v. Fuel" is not entirely a fair manner in the which to frame this discussion since corn is not the only means of producing ethanol. I have consistently advocated utilising sugar & grass instead of corn, which as I will demonstrate below is an entirely misrepresented effecient in this equation.

2. Corn is primarily fed to livestock in North America. Those who argue against fueling the engines of our vehicles and industries with corn use the same true arguments as those who argue against fueling the beefsteak and dairy complexes with corn. In reality anyone who consumes beef and dairy, as I do in moderation, is at best willfully ignorrant; at worst abetting to murder as the eco-activist fronts would certainly frame it since statistically speaking when we eat beef we eat for dozens of starving children in a very literal sense. The bovine corn feed in North America could solve the global hunger problem were it not for the bull market on beef and dairy. In this way the cow is actually one of the most wasteful machines on earth, not to mention most pollutive with greenhouse gas emissions.

3. No infrastructure has been established yet for the more effecient implementation of ethanol fueling nation wide. By way of example; some of the arguments against it would crumble if we stopped shipping fuel such long distances in favor of producing it within miles of every pump on the small scale & we presently subsidise against ethanol with an agricultural bureacracy that focuses more on other industrial uses for crops.

These are some of the ideas which lead me to recommend a restratification of the petrochemical industry to the smaller scale family farm business model, carried out largely on small dormant plots across our nation which I feel would revitalise our domestic economy.

I already have a plan to open 500 new small "fuel farms" nationwide within a year for this purpose without starving a single person or cow. My father & I have been formulating a "CCC" works type project proposal to be run by the Army, which will provide absolute energy independence to the US within one decade. This will give us an advantage that no nation on earth has including the oil rich OPEC & Arab Sheik States which also import oil.

Tangentially; I do not believe the fossil theory of petrochemicals & I predict that fuel prices will plummet in the decennial future as a market control measure by global communists and that food will become more of a commodity for the common man in the short term as predicted in that most ancient Economics Textbook : The Apocalypse to St. John the Divine and fulfilled time and again the world over.

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gunnut

IT'S A COOK BOOK!!!




Quick, name that quote.

7thsfsniper

To serve Man! Twilight Zone? IIRC!

1947

im getting a diesel powered vehicle and run it on used vegetable oil save money protect the enviorment