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Old 04-18-2008, 03:07 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Hey it was not a vacant Delhi, 21,000 people watched the people run with the flame.

Even though they were the security guards.
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Old 04-18-2008, 03:12 AM   #17 (permalink)
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disgraceful//fvckin pandering politicians
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Old 04-18-2008, 03:26 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Keeping order during the Olympic torch relay to make the whole activity may be finished smoothly doesn’t necessarily stand for the support to CCP and its crackdown in Tibet. What happened today in India only shows how responsible Indian government and its people are and their basic respect to the feeling of Chinese people.

Many Tibetan were protesting during the torch relay. How to protect citizen’s freedom and pursue the interest of country at the same time, Indian government showed our Chinese a very good example today. Considering the facts that India has more than 200 nations and various kinds of religions, it is really hard task for Indian government and people to make balance among various interests and demands. I think I begin to understand why Indian is always so proud of their democracy. Well done, Indian.

Compared with CNN, Indian media IBN reported the whole activity more objectively. Surprised most Chinese, including me.

There was no involvement of ordinary Indian people in the activity. The roads were closed. Indian women in the airport are so lovely and cute.

In Chinese board, many Chinese posted one by one “we should be the friend of India”, or something like this. No kidding.

I know almost all Indians in this forum hate to death what China/CCP has been doing to Tibet. No problem, let’s continue our debate. But I do feel I should say thank you anyway.
The girl 2end from left looks very nice.

Anyways you are welcome, i paid the price for it in a huge traffic jam.
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Old 04-18-2008, 03:30 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Some of the pics of the unusually long traffic jam near the air port.
ddf.JPG

1- traffic from south Delhi.
2-traffic from Gurgaon.
3- intersection.
4- road towards the airport.

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Old 04-18-2008, 04:05 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Hey it was not a vacant Delhi, 21,000 people watched the people run with the flame.

Even though they were the security guards.
Any links?

Edit: OK, I have got it now!

I was a tubelight!!
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Old 04-23-2008, 21:15 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Thank you Ying. I hope that there is much more unity in asia, in the lines of the European Union. In EU the mass intercultural interaction has helped people to forget the scars of the two major world wars. In India, Pakistan and China, we are still bickering at issues of the past british legacy. This friendship and unity will help us all in the long run. I think its time to move on and look for a brighter future
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Old 04-23-2008, 21:30 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Thank you Ying. I hope that there is much more unity in asia, in the lines of the European Union. In EU the mass intercultural interaction has helped people to forget the scars of the two major world wars. In India, Pakistan and China, we are still bickering at issues of the past british legacy. This friendship and unity will help us all in the long run. I think its time to move on and look for a brighter future

speak for yourself commie rat.
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Old 04-23-2008, 22:02 PM   #23 (permalink)
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thanks fulltank... I know what I am saying...
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Old 04-23-2008, 23:02 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Thank you Ying. I hope that there is much more unity in asia, in the lines of the European Union. In EU the mass intercultural interaction has helped people to forget the scars of the two major world wars. In India, Pakistan and China, we are still bickering at issues of the past british legacy. This friendship and unity will help us all in the long run. I think its time to move on and look for a brighter future
Ah, shucks.
Why dont you tell Pakistan and China to accept the status quo. Blood of Tibetians is in your hands, the same people who live in farthest corners of India under the protection of Government of India. And again, Ideology of Communism triumphs over Indian Consititution, Indian Values and Human rights,Traitor.
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Old 04-23-2008, 23:37 PM   #25 (permalink)
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dear Adux,
You didnt understand what I wrote. Look at european history. They have fought bloody wars throughout but now they live in peace and prosperity. With time people have reconciled.. germany, UK, france etc etc.... are now a union. The formation of EU doesnt mean that UK or france etc have in their hands what the Germans did. The formation of EU has diminished the meaning of international boundries here. Now there is no border check between Ireland and Norethern Ireland. Some 10 years back it was like a military zone. It is better to change with times and move forward. Your views are typical of a frog in a well, who has never seen the world outside. I talked about intercultural exchange... That doesnt make me a traitor. Indian govt is slowly increasing the cultural exchange with Pakistan. Same with China... Indian govt has changed its posture towards China. Your views for calling me a traitor is very contorted. The difference between me and you is that I have met a chinese and a pakistani face to face and realised the similarities we share. I have travelled and am travelling the world.

There is difference between being friends with the citizens of other country and having allegiance to another nation. Your response is emotional
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Comparing European countries of NOW to Pakistan and China of NOW as if they are equal, is the great fallacy you have made in your above post. India on other hand is in a higher plane to the said countries above. Read the Constitution of India, and then compare that to China and Pakistan. I want no peace with both countries unless they change. Unless they stop killing my citizens. Unless they stop claiming my territories. Unless they start treating their citizens and also their minorities with some respect and equality.

I refuse to accept the Chinese and Pakistani's on the same plane as the Europeans.

PS: You are an idiot if you think that I have been sitting in cochin all my life. I have studied, lived and worked in Glasgow for quite while before I came back to my country to do my bit. I have seen my share of Pakistani's and Chinese. You have a little bit of self-assured arrogance; my friend.

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Old 04-24-2008, 00:52 AM   #27 (permalink)
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Agree... The political stance taken by pakistani and Indian governments is due to populist reasons. Can u imagine what will happen if today Indian govt or pakistani govt says that we are freinds from today? Friendship isnt built in a day or too... Its a process... Moreover, fighting amongst each other is an economic disincentive for both India and pakistan. We spend so much money on defense, which can easily provide health care and education for so many people. Since India is in a higher moral plane, than others .. as u said.. it should take the initiative. But with any friendship, it has to be mutually respecting. Intercultural exchnage is very important as a first step.
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Old 04-24-2008, 01:05 AM   #28 (permalink)
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No, India's stance is on legality and morality. Populist, Yes we as a nation want every inch of our country. Nobody wants war, therefore it aint populist.

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Can u imagine what will happen if today Indian govt or pakistani govt says that we are freinds from today? Friendship isnt built in a day or too... Its a process... Moreover, fighting amongst each other is an economic disincentive for both India and pakistan. We spend so much money on defense, which can easily provide health care and education for so many people. Since India is in a higher moral plane, than others .. as u said..
What crap, you have no clue what India spends on defence and on social benefits.

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We have already recognized PoK, they havn't on Jammu and Kashmir, we gave them MFN status. They havent in return(not that I care).

We have already recognized Tibet, they havent on North East India, we havent called part of their country ours, they have ours. We havent humiliated their envoy, while they have did it ours.

And, stop with you liberal pot-smoking white flag waving, commie crap, the world doesnt work that way. Read up.
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Old 04-24-2008, 04:46 AM   #29 (permalink)
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dear Adux,
You didnt understand what I wrote. Look at european history. They have fought bloody wars throughout but now they live in peace and prosperity. With time people have reconciled.. germany, UK, france etc etc.... are now a union. The formation of EU doesnt mean that UK or france etc have in their hands what the Germans did. The formation of EU has diminished the meaning of international boundries here. Now there is no border check between Ireland and Norethern Ireland. Some 10 years back it was like a military zone. It is better to change with times and move forward. Your views are typical of a frog in a well, who has never seen the world outside. I talked about intercultural exchange... That doesnt make me a traitor. Indian govt is slowly increasing the cultural exchange with Pakistan. Same with China... Indian govt has changed its posture towards China. Your views for calling me a traitor is very contorted. The difference between me and you is that I have met a chinese and a pakistani face to face and realised the similarities we share. I have travelled and am travelling the world.

There is difference between being friends with the citizens of other country and having allegiance to another nation. Your response is emotional
what i find amusing is that the indian govt and especially the opposition berate america for trying to give indians a energy resource deal while at the same time seem to lose their backbones when it comes to dealing with the chinese in the same manner
advocating brinkmanship is not my favourite but in certain situations i think its necessary that india up the ante a bit when it comes to china
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Thank you Ying. I hope that there is much more unity in asia, in the lines of the European Union. In EU the mass intercultural interaction has helped people to forget the scars of the two major world wars. In India, Pakistan and China, we are still bickering at issues of the past british legacy. This friendship and unity will help us all in the long run. I think its time to move on and look for a brighter future
The very fact that you can communicate with us in the international language - English - should be adequate to thank the British and the Indian govt for the same.

If you are 23 yrs of Age, you were in the Communist "No English; only Bengali" educational policy that only helped throwing up people who could not get any job outside the State and if they were not brilliant enough, got none in the State either.

So, obviously you falll in the genre of the rich pseudo Communists like Jyito BAsu, Somnath Chatterjee, Brinda Karat et al. Bleeding hearts with palatial homes and fat bank balances, which permit them to avoid vernacular schools!!

If you are from Calcutta, I sure hope you are not from my school.

We too had some of these bleeding hearts of the Communist hue coming in Volkswagen (Joto Basu's nephews etc), Chevrolets and Pontiacs.

We used to use the State or the School bus.
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