chabliszz

I'm a college student in Shanghai...i major in english and law....
Frankly i don't consider myself a nationalist....
About Tibet...I don't know whether our government tells the truth...i think a bigger part of me think they didn't....but what i know is that a lot of western media didn't tell the truth...see i major in english...i read a lot of western newspaper and magazine...many things about what happened in China...especially political are not wrong...but not this time...

None of us should talk about the Tibet unless we do the investigation. but sth that displayed by western media like CNN and BBC are simply wrong and send a message to western people that Tibet should be independent without knowing anything about Tibet...I've been to Tibet...Most people there may not be affluent but they are happy...There are a lot human rights problems about China and our political system....but this time...it's not about this...

xunil

Westerners have a differenct view of what's happening in Tibet. There are many reasons for that. First, they believe Daila Lama is a noble man. And what he said is much more believable than information from Beijing. Second, they believe CCP has long history of human right violation, and this time is not an exception. Third, they think those Chinese who stand up for their government are either communist supporters, or extreme nationalists. Forth, they believe Tibet was an independent country until the occupying of Han Chinese. Fifth, they believe Han Chinese are wiping out the Tibetan culture, by contantly migrating into Tibet. All those five point listed above will not be accepted by the mojority of Chinese. So how can you expect that the westerners would accept what Chinese said.

chabliszz

oddly,i can accept the first four....and i'm not saying westerner should believe what we said...i do realize what we said more or less effected by the ideology that our government want us to have....i just want to talk about some facts about Tibet displayed by the western meida were not true...

citanon

Chabliszz,

First, Western reporters are human beings. They will broadcast material that's conveniently accessible to them. Depending on the stringency of their editors, they will vet a story only to the extent convenient. When they are in a foreign country reporting events that are inherently confusing, they will mess up. It's usually not intentional, at least on the part of the journalist. If you want Western media to report what you see as the truth, you have to go out of your way to court journalists and make it convenient for them to spin a story your way. Just ask the Bush administration, who's had more headaches with "Western" media than China has in the past eight years. At the end of the day, reporters and reports vary in quality, and the most astute ones on a given issue don't necessarily work for television since and don't usually come from a Journalistic background.

Second, all media sources have a tendency to exaggerate the importance of known information versus the overwhelming amount of information that is usually unknown. Therefore, most media reports tend to be devoid of all perspective.

Third, IMO, Dalai is no different than the head of any other religious organization. He's there to preserve and expand his organization first. Realizing any other perceived political goals come secondary. For him, the most important thing that has happened in the past month is probably that his donations ($$$$$$$$$) and perceived importance has just been ensured for the next decade. He's probably no more a better or worse guy than the Pope, a prominent Cardinal, or the head of one of the Baptist conferences in America.

ying

No need to mind too much the attitude of westerners. Most of them know nothing about Tibet and don’t really care Tibet and its people.

ying

In addition, being a Chinese, you have to get used to be the target for bashing.

dave lukins

[quote=ying;482688]No need to mind too much the attitude of westerners. Most of them know nothing about Tibet and don’t really care Tibet and its people.[/QUOTE]

That is a rather erroneous statement(Cai bushi!) Westerners DO know about Tibet, its History, and its People. I think the reverse of your statement is true...The Chinese People do not know(enough) about Tibet due to your Government keeping all the truth from you. As for Chinese Bashing.. no worse than your Western Bashing on Chinese sites no doubt

kams

Do you guys really think an 'escorted' (conducted) tour of Lhasa to show 'reality' to foreign journalists and envoys is the best way to communicate your side of story? Who will believe a single word of what your press is saying after that? (even if what your press/government is 100% truth)?. Which world/time does Chinese gov live in?

Ray

Being a Chinese, you have every reason to be proud about.

You belong to a great civilisation with a great history. You have all reasons to be proud of.

All media have their agenda, but since international media depends on their existence on viewership and readership for existence, they cannot publish new that is bland or pure propaganda. Indeed,the sensationalise and use the truth deftly with total distortion that State media can.

Therefore, much that one loves the Chinese people as such, and I say that with all sincerity at my command, one cannot buy what the Chinese govt has to say since many an occasion they have been rather stingy with the truth!

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"Some have learnt many Tricks of sly Evasion, Instead of Truth they use Equivocation, And eke it out with mental Reservation, Which is to good Men an Abomination."

I don't have to attend every argument I'm invited to.

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kuku

Even the escorted tours did not end up so well. At least the ones that were beamed across the TV here.

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Taboo

Western society might have misconceptions about the Chinese, but guess what, ALL societies have misconceptions about Americans...including our own Western society.

Hint: George Bush and McDonald's

Ray

[quote=dave lukins;482700]Very apt.

dave lukins

[quote=Ray;482788]Thank you Sir,

I did notice that a word had been changed...erroneous was not in the original

xunil

chabliszz, I think you over estimated the western media. They just gather information and present to the public. They are apt to choose pictures which attract public eyes -- violent, bloody, sex. The comments are only personal opinion of the authors. Everybody has their prejudice, those authors are no exception. Discipline could be compromised, especially when it won't harm themselves.

ace16807

Granted, the information we receive through standard western media is biased. (Then again, what media isn't?) However, we aren't brainless zombies who listen and accept everything they tell us. We can sift through their stories, pick out what's fact and what's opinion, and we can most certainly research ourselves. Xunil, what you've done is exactly what you don't want to be done to your own nationality. You've stereotyped Westerners, just as you have seen others stereotype Chinese.