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Old 04-15-2008, 06:19 AM   #91 (permalink)
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I have 2 questions for you sir:

1. do you support race riots?

2. do you support the establishment of a religious theocracy should the local population desire it?

Apparently off topic & out of context. Overly simple too, giving the questioner plenty of opportunities to jump all over the answers.

Still, being a gentleman I will answer as best I can.

1) I don't support riots of any sort.

2) No. I believe that any government should protect basic religious (and other) freedoms. This makes theocracy impossible, no matter what people may desire.

Does this mean we can get back on topic?
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CONFRONTATIONS during the Olympic torch relay in Canberra are looming as it becomes clear that rival pro-Chinese and pro-Tibetan demonstrators plan to turn out in strength.."
Move on Paris, Welcome to Canberra. I guess hows its going to be like when the bloody torch reaches India on 17th. There are far more Tibetans in India than in Paris or Canberra. Also considering the situations in Tibet and Australia, its definitely going to be more of a thing in India for 3 Counts
1) Number of Tibetans in India are far more that any Part of the World
2) Tibetans enjoy far greater rights In India that in any Part of the World[ the rights that they enjoy is literally the same that Indians have] and is a good thing.
3) General Public in India is not so Indifferent to China, rather there we see China as Biggest Threat to India's Security[Contrary to Popular perception, Pakistan is not]


Now the torch has already been extinguished twice in Paris, I am hoping that one of the runners does something more --- he/she should drop the Damn torch


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Tousands of Chinese students are expected to show their support for the Beijing Games by greeting the flame when it arrives in Canberra next week , organisers said.
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The Australian leg follows large pro-China rallies in Sydney and Melbourne at the weekend, where some 10,000 mostly student marchers criticised media coverage of recent violent unrest in the Himalayan region.
And BTW, how many Pro-Chinese people are there in India? How many Chinese Students are there in India?. They dont certainly Outnumber Pro-Tibetans[1 Billion Plus ]
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Apparently off topic & out of context. Overly simple too, giving the questioner plenty of opportunities to jump all over the answers.

Still, being a gentleman I will answer as best I can.

1) I don't support riots of any sort.
Should one happen, like one in Tibet, is it right for a suppression?

The "pro-democracy" demonstration in Tibet is anything but peaceful, you have to admit. The Tibetans were pretty much targetting Hans for reprisal attacks. A government, any government, even the local Tibetan government has to do something about it.

I'm all for the Tibetans gathering peacefully outside the provincial government and demand to seceed from China. If the Chinese put that down, then the wrong is on them. But that's not what's happening here.

I simply think most westerners are too quick to judge in this case. They jump into conclusion based on slanted western media report.

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2) No. I believe that any government should protect basic religious (and other) freedoms. This makes theocracy impossible, no matter what people may desire.

Does this mean we can get back on topic?
So you don't agree with the premise of Tibet. That's what Tibetan wants. Tibet has always been a theocratic state. It's like medieval Europe with a peasant class and a ruling religious body that gets all the hardwork from the people.

China is an authoritarian regime, we all know that. Until recently it ruled over the people with an iron fist. Some say now it still does. But it has brought prosperity to millions of people since it loosed up the grip. As it is right now, scary to say, the CCP might actually be better for the Tibetan people than the Tibetan monks are.

I don't think this is off topic. I pose these same questions on many of the China/Tibet threads and not many people have actually answered me. These are important questions when we discuss China/Tibet situation. Neither is free. China offers more prosperity while Tibet...I don't know what Tibet can offer to its people other than the choice of being in a theocracy.
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