Something You Won't See in China - Page 6

dave lukins · 04-14-2008, 06:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hu Jintao

That's why I won't teach you Chinese.

And I didn't write that.

Here's a bit of chinese he will understand......Zaijian hundan

Xiaohaha · 04-14-2008, 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dave lukins

Here's a bit of chinese he will understand......Zaijian hundan

LOL.

ned kelly · 04-14-2008, 07:50 AM

they might know & have heard this in 1979....although it was in vietnamese...."dau ma"

snsgenius · 04-14-2008, 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dave lukins

Here's a bit of chinese he will understand......Zaijian hundan

Ray · 04-14-2008, 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dave lukins

Here's a bit of chinese he will understand......Zaijian hundan

What does this mean DABIZI...LENG HUNDAN!

Hope above board.

gunnut · 04-14-2008, 13:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigfella

Today saw thousands of Chinese subjects take to the streets of Sydney and Melbourne to show their support for their government. Carrying Chinese flags and banners proclaiming that Tibet is and should be part of China, the protesters criticized Tibetans, pro-Tibet demonstrators, Western governments, the Western media & pretty much anyone critical of China.

This is a photo montage of the event in Sydney.

YouTube - Australia Sydney Chinese protest photos

I want every apologist for the Chinese government to watch and read up as much as they can on these protests. No doubt they will feature in the media in China. I want our Chinese posters to understand exactly what is happening here:

*Thousands of people, few of them Australian citizens, have marched through Australia's two largest cities to support a foreign dictatorship.

*They have filled our streets with the flags of a foreign nation, flags that represent perhaps the most violent political organization in human history.

*These protests directly oppose the views of the government of Australia.

*No one was beaten. No one was hurt. There was no attempt made before or during the protest to stop it. No one was photographed or followed by government spies.

Are protests like this allowed in China? I'm guessing not.

Am I opposed to this? Am I unhappy? Am I angry that a group of foreigners should be allowed to disrupt the centre of my nation's two largest cities to present an opinion I disagree with, and support a government I despise? NO!

I am PROUD to be an Australian today. I am PROUD that my nation gives foreign visitors the right to protest and voice their opinions as if they were citizens. This is the essence of freedom - the right for people you DISAGREE with to speak as freely as those you agree with.

I want China apologists to look at this and feel shame. This week my Prime Minister gave a speech in China in mandarin. Ordinary Chinese are still not allowed to read the full text of that speech - it has been censored by the Chinese government. Yet we have no trouble allowing supporters of this government vioce their views openly in Australia. My nation gives foreigners with whom it disagrees more rights than China gives its own people and I an DAMNED PROUD of the fact.

I have 2 questions for you sir:

1. do you support race riots?

2. do you support the establishment of a religious theocracy should the local population desire it?

**TopHatter** · 04-14-2008, 13:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snsgenius

Dear Moderator,

Please allow me to teach you one Chinese proverb.

"己所不欲，勿施于人" by Confucius

Its English translation is: "what you do not want done to yourself, do not do to others."

Yes, do please explain who you are referring to. And more importantly, WHY.

gunnut · 04-14-2008, 13:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snsgenius

Please tell me which country or countries have troops deployed in Iraq right now. Where are the weapons of mass destruction? Where is Guantanamo Bay located? in the US or in Cuba? Which country has naval bases built all over the world? Which country has secret prisons scattered around Europe? Which country is building radar stations near the borders of Russia? Is this the kind of "peace" you are referring to?

Do you consider those actions "bad?"

If you do, then do you consider they are equivalent to China in Tibet?

If so, you just admitted Chinese involvement in Tibet is illegal.

Ray · 04-14-2008, 14:06 PM

touché!

Ray · 04-14-2008, 14:11 PM

I love the Cultural Revolutions in the spring time
I love Tibetan killing in the fall
I love the Three Natural Disasters in the summer when it sizzles
I love every Communist cruelty in the winter when it drizzles

I love China every moment
Every moment of the year
I love China, why oh why do I love China
Because non West imperialism and colonialism is here.

I ''love'' it because it expose the fraud called COMMUNISM!!

dave lukins · 04-14-2008, 15:01 PM

Beats the "Paris" version Brigadier

dave lukins · 04-14-2008, 15:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ray

What does this mean DABIZI...LENG HUNDAN!

Hope above board.

Close, very close

ned kelly · 04-15-2008, 04:45 AM

CONFRONTATIONS during the Olympic torch relay in Canberra are looming as it becomes clear that rival pro-Chinese and pro-Tibetan demonstrators plan to turn out in strength.

Thousands of Chinese students are expected to show their support for the Beijing Games by greeting the flame when it arrives in Canberra next week , organisers said.

But the torch relay, which has been beset by protests during its journey around the world, is also set to attract hundreds of Tibetans angry at Olympic host nation China's treatment of their people.

The Australian leg follows large pro-China rallies in Sydney and Melbourne at the weekend, where some 10,000 mostly student marchers criticised media coverage of recent violent unrest in the Himalayan region.

Editor of the Chinese-language newspaper Australian Chinese Daily, Wilson Ng, said speakers at the 6000-strong Sydney rally on Sunday outlined plans to travel to Canberra to greet the torch on April 24.

''(They said) they will be joining the celebrations in Canberra,'' he said.

A notice posted on the Australian Chinese Student Club website said it would provide breakfast and lunch for students who volunteered to attend the relay in Canberra.

"There will be thousands of people coming from Sydney to Canberra to join the Olympic Torch Flame Relay Ceremony," it said.

The note, which signed off with "Light the Passion Share the Dream!!!", said there would be five pick-up points within the city for students wishing to take the two-hour road trip to Canberra.

The route for the Australian leg of the Olympic torch relay has been changed and security enhanced after the spectacle attracted pro-Tibet protests in Europe, with demonstrators trying to wrest the flame from the torch-bearers.

Australian Tibet Council spokesman Paul Bourke said he was concerned that vast crowds of Chinese students, who number some 70,000 in Australia, could overwhelm an emotional Tibetan group during the Canberra leg.

"The rumours that I've been hearing are that there are going to be literally thousands of pro-Chinese people spontaneously organised to be in Canberra," Mr Bourke said.

"They will certainly outnumber us."

Mr Bourke said pro-Tibet supporters would probably number in the "hundreds rather than thousands" and his group would try to ensure they all stuck together, rather than fragment into smaller numbers more vulnerable to confrontation.

"I am concerned about what may happen," he said.

"The Tibetans are definitely emotionally vulnerable. For a Tibetan who may have spent time in a prison and been tortured to be called, to their face, a liar or something else can be pretty confrontational."

Transient · 04-15-2008, 05:15 AM

Was just seeing this thread and I wondered. How many of those Chinese Canadians would be waving a Canadian flag should Canada ever come into conflict with China? (not that we would ever see that happen, of course) Basically, the point I'm making is, to what do they owe their loyalty to? Country or Race?

(Yes, I'm perfectly aware OoE is Chinese. This is not meant to insult him in any way)

Ray · 04-15-2008, 06:01 AM

I would think Country first with a mellowed wonderment as to why the Race wants to cross swords with the Country.

On the other hand if Race is versus countries not one of domicile, then Race would be predominant!!

04-14-2008, 07:50 AM	#78 (permalink)
ned kelly Regular Join Date: 02-18-08 Location: sydney Posts: 148 Country:	they might know & have heard this in 1979....although it was in vietnamese...."dau ma" __________________ Illegitimi non carborundum

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Ray Postmaster General *Military Professional* Join Date: 08-20-03 Posts: 27,268 Country:	I love the Cultural Revolutions in the spring time I love Tibetan killing in the fall I love the Three Natural Disasters in the summer when it sizzles I love every Communist cruelty in the winter when it drizzles I love China every moment Every moment of the year I love China, why oh why do I love China Because non West imperialism and colonialism is here. I ''love'' it because it expose the fraud called COMMUNISM!! Last edited by Ray : 04-14-2008 at 14:13 PM.

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Transient Regular Join Date: 11-22-06 Posts: 46 Country:	Was just seeing this thread and I wondered. How many of those Chinese Canadians would be waving a Canadian flag should Canada ever come into conflict with China? (not that we would ever see that happen, of course) Basically, the point I'm making is, to what do they owe their loyalty to? Country or Race? (Yes, I'm perfectly aware OoE is Chinese. This is not meant to insult him in any way) Last edited by Transient : 04-15-2008 at 05:25 AM.

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Ray Postmaster General *Military Professional* Join Date: 08-20-03 Posts: 27,268 Country:	touché!

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ned kelly Regular Join Date: 02-18-08 Location: sydney Posts: 148 Country:	CONFRONTATIONS during the Olympic torch relay in Canberra are looming as it becomes clear that rival pro-Chinese and pro-Tibetan demonstrators plan to turn out in strength. Thousands of Chinese students are expected to show their support for the Beijing Games by greeting the flame when it arrives in Canberra next week , organisers said. But the torch relay, which has been beset by protests during its journey around the world, is also set to attract hundreds of Tibetans angry at Olympic host nation China's treatment of their people. The Australian leg follows large pro-China rallies in Sydney and Melbourne at the weekend, where some 10,000 mostly student marchers criticised media coverage of recent violent unrest in the Himalayan region. Editor of the Chinese-language newspaper Australian Chinese Daily, Wilson Ng, said speakers at the 6000-strong Sydney rally on Sunday outlined plans to travel to Canberra to greet the torch on April 24. ''(They said) they will be joining the celebrations in Canberra,'' he said. A notice posted on the Australian Chinese Student Club website said it would provide breakfast and lunch for students who volunteered to attend the relay in Canberra. "There will be thousands of people coming from Sydney to Canberra to join the Olympic Torch Flame Relay Ceremony," it said. The note, which signed off with "Light the Passion Share the Dream!!!", said there would be five pick-up points within the city for students wishing to take the two-hour road trip to Canberra. The route for the Australian leg of the Olympic torch relay has been changed and security enhanced after the spectacle attracted pro-Tibet protests in Europe, with demonstrators trying to wrest the flame from the torch-bearers. Australian Tibet Council spokesman Paul Bourke said he was concerned that vast crowds of Chinese students, who number some 70,000 in Australia, could overwhelm an emotional Tibetan group during the Canberra leg. "The rumours that I've been hearing are that there are going to be literally thousands of pro-Chinese people spontaneously organised to be in Canberra," Mr Bourke said. "They will certainly outnumber us." Mr Bourke said pro-Tibet supporters would probably number in the "hundreds rather than thousands" and his group would try to ensure they all stuck together, rather than fragment into smaller numbers more vulnerable to confrontation. "I am concerned about what may happen," he said. "The Tibetans are definitely emotionally vulnerable. For a Tibetan who may have spent time in a prison and been tortured to be called, to their face, a liar or something else can be pretty confrontational."

04-15-2008, 06:01 AM	#90 (permalink)
Ray Postmaster General *Military Professional* Join Date: 08-20-03 Posts: 27,268 Country:	I would think Country first with a mellowed wonderment as to why the Race wants to cross swords with the Country. On the other hand if Race is versus countries not one of domicile, then Race would be predominant!!

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