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Hu Jintao · 04-10-2008, 23:49 PM

No such thing called "Tibetan people choose to anti Han", it's not in large scale.

First hand eye witness, a single Chinese reporter cross Tibet after the riot: all photos, with little text description
a Chinese reporter traveling in Tibet after the riot

Quite surprising, Tibetan villages fly more Chinese flags than Han villages. Oh actually, Han villages don't do that.

From the photo you can tell, Tibetans are lot richer than Indians.

**Officer of Engineers** · 04-11-2008, 00:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Hu Jintao

From the photo you can tell, Tibetans are lot richer than Indians.

Get off this right now! You have absolutely no idea about the state of wealth within India. Do not, I repeat, do not post things you know absolutely nothing about.

And the flag thing? Fear would have a lot to do with it.

Hu Jintao · 04-11-2008, 00:13 AM

I mean farmers.

I see them all driving tractors, something really surprised me.

**Officer of Engineers** · 04-11-2008, 00:15 AM

News flash. Indian farmers got tractors also.

Hu Jintao · 04-11-2008, 00:17 AM

I know, but considering the fuel consumption in high mountain area, and low yield of corps.

It's really not worth it. They have too much money.

**Officer of Engineers** · 04-11-2008, 00:18 AM

Which means that Indian farmers are making more money from their crops than Tibetans!

You really don't think things through, do you?

Hu Jintao · 04-11-2008, 00:19 AM

I am thinking along the other line: government hand-out...

**Officer of Engineers** · 04-11-2008, 00:26 AM

Stop! Think this through right now. Why would a guy living off gov't handouts be richer than a guy who works for it?

ying · 04-11-2008, 00:29 AM

Guys, please stopping talking about India and making any comparison between India and Tibet. Tibet is the issue should be solved by the joint effort of Han and Tibetan, nothing to do with Indian.

**Officer of Engineers** · 04-11-2008, 00:35 AM

I agree, Ying, but the best way to dispel a false claim is to prove it is invalid.

ying · 04-11-2008, 00:39 AM

Regarding the government assistance, I think it is one of the Tibet policies Chinese should reconsider.

On one hand, the reality is the gap between Tibet and the central areas of China is too huge. Tibetan, mostly young generation of Tibetan, have serious concern on the huge gap and expect Tibet may be prospective and rich as same as the other areas of China.

On the other hand, no mature industry in Tibet except tour. If we just account on the self-development of Tibet, it will take a century for Tibetan to achieve what they already gotten from Han. Personally, I admire Tibetan and do think they are our brothers and Han is obligated to help Tibetan. The question is, how to help?

**Officer of Engineers** · 04-11-2008, 00:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ying

The question is, how to help?

Cut the handout.

Old Chinese proverb. Give a man a fish, he has a good meal. Teach him how to fish, and he eats for a lifetime.

kuku · 04-11-2008, 00:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Officer of Engineers

Seriously. The Tibetans never had more freedom than they do now.

I agree dharamshala is a very free place.

And, the nagas have stopped killing off their neighbors, collecting their heads and displaying the heads as trophies. A Naga was a good friend of mine in college.
Hey, now thats a lot of change in 50 years.

ying · 04-11-2008, 00:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Officer of Engineers

Cut the handout.

Old Chinese proverb. Give a man a fish, he has a good meal. Teach him how to fish, and he eats for a lifetime.

How about the "teach" will jeopardize the unique Tibetan culture?

**Officer of Engineers** · 04-11-2008, 00:52 AM

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Originally Posted by ying

How about the "teach" will jeopardize the unique Tibetan culture?

You have to make it voluntary. If the man doesn't want to fish, teaching how to fish is useless.

04-10-2008, 23:49 PM	#16 (permalink)
Hu Jintao Banished Join Date: 04-05-08 Posts: 82 Country:	No such thing called "Tibetan people choose to anti Han", it's not in large scale. First hand eye witness, a single Chinese reporter cross Tibet after the riot: all photos, with little text description a Chinese reporter traveling in Tibet after the riot Quite surprising, Tibetan villages fly more Chinese flags than Han villages. Oh actually, Han villages don't do that. From the photo you can tell, Tibetans are lot richer than Indians. Last edited by Hu Jintao : 04-11-2008 at 00:01 AM.

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04-11-2008, 00:13 AM	#18 (permalink)
Hu Jintao Banished Join Date: 04-05-08 Posts: 82 Country:	I mean farmers. I see them all driving tractors, something really surprised me.

04-11-2008, 00:15 AM	#19 (permalink)
Officer of Engineers *Military Professional* Moderator Scotch taster Join Date: 08-06-03 Posts: 15,915 Country:	News flash. Indian farmers got tractors also.

04-11-2008, 00:17 AM	#20 (permalink)
Hu Jintao Banished Join Date: 04-05-08 Posts: 82 Country:	I know, but considering the fuel consumption in high mountain area, and low yield of corps. It's really not worth it. They have too much money.

04-11-2008, 00:18 AM	#21 (permalink)
Officer of Engineers *Military Professional* Moderator Scotch taster Join Date: 08-06-03 Posts: 15,915 Country:	Which means that Indian farmers are making more money from their crops than Tibetans! You really don't think things through, do you?

04-11-2008, 00:19 AM	#22 (permalink)
Hu Jintao Banished Join Date: 04-05-08 Posts: 82 Country:	I am thinking along the other line: government hand-out...

04-11-2008, 00:26 AM	#23 (permalink)
Officer of Engineers *Military Professional* Moderator Scotch taster Join Date: 08-06-03 Posts: 15,915 Country:	Stop! Think this through right now. Why would a guy living off gov't handouts be richer than a guy who works for it?

04-11-2008, 00:29 AM	#24 (permalink)
ying Regular Join Date: 04-08-08 Location: China Posts: 129	Guys, please stopping talking about India and making any comparison between India and Tibet. Tibet is the issue should be solved by the joint effort of Han and Tibetan, nothing to do with Indian.

04-11-2008, 00:35 AM	#25 (permalink)
Officer of Engineers *Military Professional* Moderator Scotch taster Join Date: 08-06-03 Posts: 15,915 Country:	I agree, Ying, but the best way to dispel a false claim is to prove it is invalid.

04-11-2008, 00:39 AM	#26 (permalink)
ying Regular Join Date: 04-08-08 Location: China Posts: 129	Regarding the government assistance, I think it is one of the Tibet policies Chinese should reconsider. On one hand, the reality is the gap between Tibet and the central areas of China is too huge. Tibetan, mostly young generation of Tibetan, have serious concern on the huge gap and expect Tibet may be prospective and rich as same as the other areas of China. On the other hand, no mature industry in Tibet except tour. If we just account on the self-development of Tibet, it will take a century for Tibetan to achieve what they already gotten from Han. Personally, I admire Tibetan and do think they are our brothers and Han is obligated to help Tibetan. The question is, how to help?

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