Anglo-American alliance - as close as is commonly thought? - Page 2

dark-alias · 03-30-2008, 01:42 AM

Whats your guess on the age anyway?

**Officer of Engineers** · 03-30-2008, 01:45 AM

Wtf?

Just Who The Hell Are You?

You're In Intelligence? You Could Not Verify The Facts?

So Why The Hell Do Countries Who Did A Hell Of A Lot Less Than Canada Get Praised And Canada Get Ignored?

I Suggest That You Verify What I Have Said On Your Own. Google Is At Your Fingertips.

And I Am Damned Surprise That You Don't Know This At All!!!!

You Who Claimed To Belong To The Intel Community!!!!

dark-alias · 03-30-2008, 01:49 AM

Im not in Intel at all. PSD/Infantry if you look at the profile. You didnt get ignored. You just didnt get any attention on fox news. its not so bad. I like a spirited conversation

dark-alias · 03-30-2008, 01:51 AM

Its politics, we were trying to build a coalition. you were already on board no need to kiss your behind. another note-keep getting that oil please

**Officer of Engineers** · 03-30-2008, 01:52 AM

Here is the report from Transport Canada

Chronology - Transport Canada responds to September 11 attacks

And we got ignored by the President of the United States

Kansas Bear · 03-30-2008, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by dark-alias

Im not in Intel at all. PSD/Infantry if you look at the profile. You didnt get ignored. You just didnt get any attention on fox news. its not so bad. I like a spirited conversation

Some advice some a lowly historian, don't mess with the Colonel......

dark-alias · 03-30-2008, 01:56 AM

thankyou for the link. Insightful

dark-alias · 03-30-2008, 02:02 AM

Oh bear...maybe its me or its that your english may not be so good, but could you be so kind as to elaborate a little. Thanks

Kansas Bear · 03-30-2008, 02:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dark-alias

Oh bear...maybe its me or its that your english may not be so good, but could you be so kind as to elaborate a little. Thanks

Regardless on the number of glasses of Talisker I've had, it would seem to me that you are baiting the Colonel. One of the few people on this planet I respect. Hmmmmmmmmmmmm..............

Auf wiedersehn.................

dalem · 03-30-2008, 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Officer of Engineers

I have a much simpler explanation. You Irish may not want to believe it but it's there. We're FAMILY! Not allies. Not friends. We're FAMILY!

Oh we'll fight and nag and complain to each other how the big old mean Big Brother is so much a meanie but come 11 September, who were the 1st to rescue the Americans (the Canadians), who were the 1st to go into Afghanistan (the British), who were the 1st outside of NATO not obliged by the NATO group consensus to side with the Americans (the Aussies and Kiwis).

Hear hear!

-dale

dalem · 03-30-2008, 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by dark-alias

Yes that is great, and why we have such a good relationship, but do you really think that the american people wanted to hear that oh its ok canada standing by to pull us out of the ditch. Sorry, no offense or disrespect, but what had to be done and felt is that America had indeed suffered a great blow but was strong and would remain strong and that she was still as safe and wonderful place to live. You already know all of this so why go any further. No of course later it is expected that you country at least get the praise it deserved through media outlets. Im curious about the 45,000 in your homes. links please

Links?

Did our cousins to the north ask for links when they took those flights to THEIR tarmacs on 9/11?

Please.

Spats and details begone. We are cousins. Brothers. We are one.

-dale

T_igger_cs_30 · 03-30-2008, 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Officer of Engineers

I have a much simpler explanation. You Irish may not want to believe it but it's there. We're FAMILY! Not allies. Not friends. We're FAMILY!

Oh we'll fight and nag and complain to each other how the big old mean Big Brother is so much a meanie but come 11 September, who were the 1st to rescue the Americans (the Canadians), who were the 1st to go into Afghanistan (the British), who were the 1st outside of NATO not obliged by the NATO group consensus to side with the Americans (the Aussies and Kiwis).

Seconded ...............all in favour

crooks · 03-30-2008, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Officer of Engineers

I have a much simpler explanation. You Irish may not want to believe it but it's there. We're FAMILY! Not allies. Not friends. We're FAMILY!

Sir, nobody in Ireland would doubt or demean the strong relations that we have with the Canadians, Americans, Kiwis and Ozzies, and a valuable, warm friendship we have with the Brits, but Ireland is an odd case in many regards - Ask 100 Irish people whether they consider links with ABCANZ or links with Europe more important.

I can tell you right now, Europe by a landslide - again, not because Irish people don't consider relations with ABCANZ important, they do, just nowhere near as important as you think they are, and certainly not a heated, 'we're family' style relationship - a cool, calm relationship, involving the rest of Europe, working for the betterment of all.

Foreign relations of the Republic of Ireland - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia - a short but interesting read.

Personally I'd favour Irish membership of NATO, but the vast majority of my countrymen don't and won't.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Officer of Engineers

Oh we'll fight and nag and complain to each other how the big old mean Big Brother is so much a meanie but come 11 September, who were the 1st to rescue the Americans (the Canadians), who were the 1st to go into Afghanistan (the British), who were the 1st outside of NATO not obliged by the NATO group consensus to side with the Americans (the Aussies and Kiwis).

A very good example.

Where do the Irish fit in there?

HistoricalDavid · 03-31-2008, 06:02 AM

Alcohol supply for OoE?

Ireland's longstanding neutrality prevents those sort of shenanigans.

PS your own wikipedia link mentions the use of Shannon Airport.

crooks · 03-31-2008, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by HistoricalDavid

Alcohol supply for OoE?

Ireland's longstanding neutrality prevents those sort of shenanigans.

PS your own wikipedia link mentions the use of Shannon Airport.

Yes, and indeed that is one of, if not the most controversial aspects of the Ahern Government's foreign policy - I'm against US use of Shannon, especially as Amesty International suspect that many are rendition flights who refuel.....money for one of Ireland's less developed regions is their primary 'justification' of it - It doesn't cut ice with most of us, and had Bertie Ahern's government not had such an impressive record at scaremongering, the opposition would have taken power in last year's election (and they certainly will in the next).

A woman took a sledgehammer to a refuelling US fighter plane last year, done 3 million Euros worth of damage, and was then praised by the Worker's party and Socialist party

!

As for the booze, I believe OoE drinks Scotch - a drink for the lesser man, but if it's his cup of tea

, what harm?

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03-30-2008, 01:42 AM	#16 (permalink)
dark-alias *Military Professional* Join Date: 03-28-08 Location: California Posts: 219 Country:	Whats your guess on the age anyway?

03-30-2008, 01:49 AM	#18 (permalink)
dark-alias *Military Professional* Join Date: 03-28-08 Location: California Posts: 219 Country:	Im not in Intel at all. PSD/Infantry if you look at the profile. You didnt get ignored. You just didnt get any attention on fox news. its not so bad. I like a spirited conversation

03-30-2008, 01:51 AM	#19 (permalink)
dark-alias *Military Professional* Join Date: 03-28-08 Location: California Posts: 219 Country:	Its politics, we were trying to build a coalition. you were already on board no need to kiss your behind. another note-keep getting that oil please

03-30-2008, 01:56 AM	#22 (permalink)
dark-alias *Military Professional* Join Date: 03-28-08 Location: California Posts: 219 Country:	thankyou for the link. Insightful

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dark-alias *Military Professional* Join Date: 03-28-08 Location: California Posts: 219 Country:	Oh bear...maybe its me or its that your english may not be so good, but could you be so kind as to elaborate a little. Thanks

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