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Old 03-28-2008, 20:40 PM   #46 (permalink)
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No Everyone else will move to the colder regions to escape the same fate. Americans will move to Canada.
Canada's nice but I for one am going to Mexico(or farther south). I speak the lingo and love the climate thanks to the few years I spent there. Of course by then arizona and texas will be part of mexico.
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Old 03-28-2008, 21:36 PM   #47 (permalink)
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Heck, I'm going to Glynn's house. With only a billion people around I'm sure there'll be room in the yard.

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Old 03-29-2008, 04:07 AM   #48 (permalink)
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So you're a big believer in "two wrongs can make a right" then?

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So you're a little troll?

Despite this I'll do something for you that you appear incapable of doing for me - asking an adult question. You can answer straight yes/no or ro into detail if you prefer.

Is is ever acceptable to inflict a smaller wrong in order to undo a larger one?
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Old 03-29-2008, 04:30 AM   #49 (permalink)
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QUOTE=7thsfsniper;474767]I absolutely agree with you. What do you think the division will be in Europe(racial, religious, economic) and do you really think it will take that long for it to start? I might say you are correct here only because it seems many people today are slow to take action and don't have the commitment of yesterday. On the other hand, there are certainly record setting tensions, rising daily. How long CAN one not act?
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Ever wonder why the left divides everyone and micro classifies them into small groups and subgroups? Multi-cultural (code speak)for divide and conquer. A useful tool the communist employ to subvert the land they intend to conquer.

We need to pull together...No, we have to pull together. Those that won't need to sit back and shut up or find their way out.

"A house divided will surely fall".

When the number of sticks are large enough the bundle is harder to break.

Electing patriot AMERICAN politicians would be a good start. Someone who believes the constitution and doesn't urinate on it.

Kick out the treasonous anti-American crowd to the country of their choice since they don't like the one that they are in.

Teach our children to be proud of the country in the schools.

Kick crooked politicians out of office.

Secure our borders.

Our constitution is not a self-destructing document to be challenged by our enemies foreign or domestic. It is not a living breathing constitution to be change willy nilly by perverts or foreigners with designs on the take over of our land.

Make goods in our country by our people. Food grown by US for US, oh yeah and so we can help those least fortunate in the world at our own discretion and not willy-nilly, not out of guilt but out of charity.




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Old 03-29-2008, 04:46 AM   #50 (permalink)
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So you're a little troll?

Despite this I'll do something for you that you appear incapable of doing for me - asking an adult question. You can answer straight yes/no or ro into detail if you prefer.

Is is ever acceptable to inflict a smaller wrong in order to undo a larger one?
The problem is what you consider wrong might actually be right. And judging from the majority of your post that I have read, if I take what you say, and then do the opposite, I would be choosing the right course of action.

Sorry Dalem, I just had to answer this one.

Oh yeah, sorry Bigfella I could not resist. Remember even though I disagree with nearly everything you say you say it so well.



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Old 03-29-2008, 04:50 AM   #51 (permalink)
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In New Zealand, 50% of primary school children now no longer have there fathers living at home with them.
What a load of cobblers.
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BigFella, can the name calling please.
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To whoever asked, faggedabadit is of course strine for forget about it.

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What a load of cobblers.
Sorry lot that doesn't take responsibility for his 5 minutes of irresponsibility. Cause they say, If it feels good, do it. Bah!!!...Bah!!!

Men need to be Men and not selfish, whore munger, bastard, loser's. It's sad to have no real purpose in life but to follow your member.




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Old 03-29-2008, 05:11 AM   #55 (permalink)
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To whoever asked faggedabadit is of course strine for forget about it.



Convicts you know, low educational levels. We love them dearly, they're king of like stupid big brothers with special needs


I don't get it.




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I don't get it.




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Sorry lot that doesn't take responsibility for his 5 minutes of irresponsibility. Cause they say, If it feels good, do it. Bah!!!...Bah!!!

Men need to be Men and not selfish, whore munger, bastard, loser's. It's sad to have no real purpose in life but to follow your member.




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most significant change in families in the past two decades has been the shift from two-parent to one-parent families. This was more pronounced in the 1980s, when the share of one-parent families increased from 14 to 24 percent, than in the 1990s, when it rose to 29 percent. One-parent families are expected to continue to increase, but at a slower rate. Family projections based on trends since 1986 suggest that by 2021, one-parent families are projected to make up around 35 percent of all families with dependent children. For many of these families there will be parents living in another household who are actively involved in the care and upbringing of the children.
It's high, but nowhere as high as Bel is quoting it. And yes, men do need to step up to the plate.

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My dad used to hit my mum. Not often, but when he did it left black eyes and bruises. He used to hit us as well. There's no golden age when men were men and women knew their place, and violence and lack of both responsibility and strength have always been with us as men.
It's not a fault of society or government or women if men's 'traditional' roles are disappearing, it's up to men to evolve and develop our roles, to care for our families and to be better than our fathers. Thats not disrespectful, we learn from the good things and the bad, it's our role to lead and make the lives of our families better, generation by generation.
If women are rejecting men, those men have to ask themselves why, not try and force women to accept them as they are by changing laws and removing benefits and rights of women.
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So you're a little troll?

Despite this I'll do something for you that you appear incapable of doing for me - asking an adult question. You can answer straight yes/no or ro into detail if you prefer.

Is is ever acceptable to inflict a smaller wrong in order to undo a larger one?
Bigfella, no one here is impressed by bravado. Slur me in jest and I will laugh and return in kind. But if you actually think you are insulting me with labels like troll or the like, you will find you're just going to be ignored.

Care to ask your question again?

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Very much a conspiracy but one I feel that may actually be true. Historically the best way to bring down Empires is from within.

The sort of attacks I see happening is as follows.

-Human induced Global warming. Using sperious Scientific evidence lay guilt upon industrialized nations in an effort to curb productivity.

-Induce ideologies that are in fact at the core Communism. Modern Western State welfare, public healthcare etc are very much Communistic in there very nature.

-Destruction of Western family values. Replaced with more and more bureaucracy/legislation. Removal of individual responsibility.

-Changing economic structure. Our Grandfathers families existed on one wage, today's require two resulting in declines in working marriages and birth rates. Workers children today are being raised by Government employees or strangers. Capitalism = evil, Socialism/liberalism = good.

-Free trade, force western companies to compete with companies operating under lower morals/laws. (virtual use of slave labour etc) resulting in loss of jobs.

-Decline in Western Nationalism.

-Guilt for being Western, other cultures are often given priority over local Western cultures.

-Decline of Christianity, rise of Atheism. (I'm an atheist myself but I recognise that the West was built largely on Christian values and morals.)

-Multicultralism. Not only allow other tribes to settle peacefully upon lands once earmarked for your children and your childrens children but also allow there cultures to overide existing ones.

-The age of man-shame. Child molestation, family violence etc. Corrosponds with the rise of feminism.

There are others and obviously I could of gone a lot more in-depth but I just wanted to get the ball rolling.
Am I paranoid? Is the decline of the West natural progression or is something more sinister involved?
Heck do you even believe that the west is declining?



I read your post, and then read it again today I think you are spot-on.
The question is, when the fox is in the hen house, what do we do?

Is a rev-l-ution in order? Yessss!

A little advise to little Wabbers,

The West and America needs to take back what they have lost. Lets fight the foxes and foes of freedom! Better now than later! Beat them at the ballot box , sue them, beat them in the head with our constitutions, revisit laws on treason, mobilize militia's as per the USA constitution. Scare the treasonous varmints back in their holes or back to the hell holes they [left].

Instate or Reinstate the right to bear arms in Western countries such as UK, Australia and the rest. Tough times require Tough Measures.

Train your boys to be men and not transvestites or perv's. Teach them to love their country and its freedom and democracy. Don't lend credence to perversion as so it will die on the vine.

Eliminate violent gangs all together.

Don't get fat and lazy. Don't feel secure and content when your country is going to hell in a hand basket. When you see what looks to be a group taking your country into don't let it happen! And don't let them mutate your law to theirs.

Understand communism and read its manifesto to learn to vote against its proponents. Remember that every time it is tried it fails an only causes suffering to those it claims to serve.

Treat others like you would like to be treated. But shun treasonous tyrants all together.

Be angry when you elected politicians who are not representing you and the constitution of your fare land. Recall those who burden the people with burdens to large to handle while strapping them with regulations impossible and to onerous.

Let the private sector handle charity.

Teach reading, writing, and arithmetic, history, real home economics, patriotism, self reliance, manners, charity, save sex for marriage and so on. Don't use the schools as communist indoctrination centers and pervert birthing centers. Teach the fact that cucumbers are for eating and not for condoms. Teach children to be morally responsible. Expect people to be responsible for their own actions and not rely on the government for anything except upholding the constitution, protecting the borders, providing a military to defend the constitution, and building and maintaining the roads and vital infrastructure.

Let the Representatives make the law and the judges carry it out. Not the other way around.

Pay off the national debt (America). remove all social programs and let family and charity take care of the rest. Cause, it's too tempting for bureaucrats to give themselves useless straw man jobs, hefty pay raises and so on with the peoples money. Besides time and experience should prove to anyone paying attention that the bureaucrat's don't love you! They don't love your children. That is your job and you are expected to be the one to do it better.

They want your money for their straw dog programs to line their greedy little pockets. It's worthwhile to note that we pay for bureaucrats to make our lives a living hell. Think about that logic from a tax payers view, not from the bureaucrat's

If you don't love children use a condom for crying out loud, (Don't go the 'kill the child' route) for five minute of ecstasy, that is just sick and murderous. If you want a women then plan on getting married. If your irresponsible remain celibate. .



If your a real man, most, if not all of what I have just said will make sense. If you are a pervert it will appear threatening to your way of life. If you are irresponsible it will baffle you. If you are stubborn it will harden you. If you are a fool it will anger you. If your a communist or in the act of subverting freedom it will expose you. If you are selfish bastard you probably won't find time beyond the mirror looking at your own self interest to read anything worthwhile anyway. But no matter what it does, It's darn good stuff to live by and you know it. I wish I could take credit for it but lo commonsense has predated me and hopefully will outlast me.

And most of all take life by the frigging horns and be a man and make it work.
Don't be a limp spined weaner or your nation will be food for the freaking birds.
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