gunnut

I thought we did recognizing Kosovo's independence.

In hindsight, Clinton screwed up. We shouldn't have gotten involved in European affairs.

We helped a muslim nation and does anyone remember that? Not the muslims. All they remember is how we help the j0000s...

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dalem

Yep. As counterproductive as it is, and as stupid and emotionally-based as it is, I say let Europe burn. I'm tired of them.

-dale

Elbmek

Does any country HAVE to recognise another??

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Dreadnought

It does help and promote communications between those involved and those concerned.

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gunnut

It just lends legitimacy to your claim that you are a real country as opposed to a scam artist trying to make a buck.

Of course there's the added bonus of being recognized by the United States. It adds prestige to your claim.

My country is recognized by the People's Republic of Southern Angola....no one cares. (no disrespect to the Angolan people)

My country is recognized by the United States of America....totally different.

SEVA

Last I checked port of Iran's Airforce consists of: AH-1 Cobras, F-5's Bell 212's F-14's hmm... Remind you of ANOTHER islamic state that was armed with American weapons?

MrFirst

What about history? What about Iran, or polonium, or anything else? This is the thread about Serbia, not Iran.

Your attempts to shirk the questions and change the issue look very unconvincing and irrelevant.

Ray

Yesterdays news on FoxNews.

The US govt is to have a programme for all schools focussing on the US history since it has been found that very few, including chaps from the Ivy League are aware of the details of US history!

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entropy

And at least nog help the muslims. Anything but helping muslims. We now have an ashtray in our backyard and the dirt is waving over with the wind.

Call me a racist, but all I've seen from Albanians is crime and problems.

There's something about small mountain muslim nations that always causes problems.

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gunnut

All sold to the Shah of Iran, not the current islamic regime.

ned kelly

gunnut the US recognised the Khmer Rouge as the govt of Cambodia in the mid to late 70's even in the UN...i think it provides some legitmacy yes but maybe not moral legitimacy....( then again i've been accused in the past of all sorts of moral delusions )

Dreadnought

Merely replying to your post I dont "shirk" answers nor subjects.

ShayGaetz

It should also be noted that Albania's "neighbors" wanted the total partitioning of Albania, after WW I, so that it would no longer exist as a separate entity and nationality.

The one person who prevented that from happening at the Paris Peace Conference in 1919 which eventually confirmed Albania's official boundaries was President Woodrow Wilson of the United States of America who declared,

"I shall have but one voice at the Peace Conference, and I will use that voice in behalf of Albania."

yet again the Balkans must obligedly raise the refrain -

God Bless America!

Tung!

ShayGaetz

In Serbia today - crypto-Nazi nationalist leaders continue to rant about Greater Serbia, Slav racial purity, an Orthodox crusade against Islam, and medieval Kosovo - Serbia's Sudetenland.

Let's cut to the chase - Kosovo is sitting on one of Europe’s most lucrative mineral deposits. The potential wealth of northern Kosovo’s Trepça Complex coveted by Serbia is vast! It alone could solve either nation’s desperate economic problems.

The debate is no longer about democratic decentralization; this is really about Serbian Lebensraum, as international interests divvy up the spoils of war.

Russia fears this new American initiated precedent of rendering the UN irrelevant!

If the US and its NATO allies can stymie the creation of a "Greater Serbia" built on genocide's charnel remains, Russian ambitions in former Soviet Union territories can be similarly thwarted. China is similarly worried - think Taiwan or Tibet.

Remarkable as it may seem to some participants - USA is acting with honour unadulterated by financial self-interest or ulterior motive!

for more info... Mario's Cyberspace Station: Kosovo

molim!

ShayGaetz

oh dear - I fear I may have stepped on someone's corns!

How would have thought it... the serbs were not really the "good guys" during WW II!?

The BALKAN Human Rights Web Pages

Anti-Masonic Hate Stamps

Regarding WW II history:

President Tudjman (a Croatian hero of the Partisan movement in WW II) on more than one occasion lamented the fate of all who perished! I note that no Serbian leader has ever followed Croatia’s example and apologized for Serbian complicity in the Holocaust!

According to Parish monographs, the Yugoslav census records of 1946 as well as Serbian historians; it is clear that the Serbian population actually increased during World War II. This fact belies the Serbian contentions they were victims of an unprecedented holocaust, the horror of the Ustasi crimes notwithstanding!

The fate of the Croats is far less benign! By all accounts, the Croats (among other ethnic groups) suffered an acute reduction in population according to the same sources cited above. Furthermore, the slaughter continued long after July 1945. In the six years following the end of World War II, roughly one quarter of Yugoslavia’s population was jailed or exterminated as extolled in a speech to the Belgrade Parliament by Aleksandr Rankovic (chief of secret police) who boasted of the jailing and “liquidation” of over three million “enemies of the state”. (Yugoslav dailies: Borba & Politika; Feb 1, 1951)

Winston Churchill once remarked the Balkans have a propensity to produce more history than they can possibly digest!