Protesters attack U.S. embassy in Belgrade - Page 5

kato · 02-24-2008, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Bella

"If" the U.S. wouldn't have done anything, and not supported Kosovo's independence, the U.S. embasy in Kosovo would probably been attacked!!!

If there was a US embassy in Kosovo (there isn't of course), it would mean the US already accepted Kosovo's independance long ago

MrFirst · 02-24-2008, 15:55 PM

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Originally Posted by stasha

Russia could do some good and save alot of lifes by calming the Serbs and making them understand their land is still there, there ancestors graves are there, if they want to protest, fine, do it without violence. In other words calm them down vs. adding fuel to the fire.

Oh, really? But Russia had already tried to do some good and a save a lot, when she called on NATO and USA to calm down and do it without violence. In 1999. Vainly. That's enough for us.

osplant · 02-24-2008, 16:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Terminator

unfortunately, u can't use what happened years ago on today's politic

. society keep moving ahead and policies are changing everyday. And putting aside all the pros and cons, they are fighting for freedom of not only Americans but the World isn't it?

Albanians are pitiful too. They have been discriminated by the majority of the Serbs too. Since both doesn't see eye-to-eye, might jolly-well let their own ethnics govern to stop all these internal bleeding

I would agree with your point if you had made a hint that Serbs were the only nation along with Greece in the Southern Europe during the WW2 that had strongly resisted the Nazis. They suffered the four year of occupation from barbarian Nazis and Italians. It had costly paid in blood and still is paying, while the other nations as you may not know were cooperating with Germans and were the Nazis's friendly forces in their operations of slaughtering houses.
The nowadays political situation is a result of the then days. Yes, we cannot still reproduce the hatred and live with it. Yes, we have to see the future. But taking parts and be so one-sided is not a wise thing. Are not the Serbs who always make the "crooked loaves". The great powers, USA, the former Soviet Union, Great British and France after dividing Berlin and whole Germany left the rest nations to the known sphere of influence and have done nothing either to restore the situation or to provide justice.

S-2 · 02-24-2008, 17:43 PM

"The great powers, USA, the former Soviet Union, Great British and France after dividing Berlin and whole Germany left the rest nations to the known sphere of influence and have done nothing either to restore the situation or to provide justice."

That's indefensible. Where've you been for the last sixty-three years. That wasn't us that drew an "iron curtain" across Europe and I'd suggest that the Common Market, NATO, the EU, and the UN modestly, remotely, and obliquely hint at network of alliances and treaties that boggle the informed mind.

For those uninformed souls such as you, it's simply beyond comprehension.

Let me guess- Greece, orthodox. Serbia, orthodox. Muslims bad. Orthodox good.

Gotcha.

Bluesman · 02-24-2008, 20:10 PM

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Originally Posted by S-2

"The great powers, USA, the former Soviet Union, Great British and France after dividing Berlin and whole Germany left the rest nations to the known sphere of influence and have done nothing either to restore the situation or to provide justice."

That's indefensible. Where've you been for the last sixty-three years. That wasn't us that drew an "iron curtain" across Europe and I'd suggest that the Common Market, NATO, the EU, and the UN modestly, remotely, and obliquely hint at network of alliances and treaties that boggle the informed mind.

For those uninformed souls such as you, it's simply beyond comprehension.

Let me guess- Greece, orthodox. Serbia, orthodox. Muslims bad. Orthodox good.

Gotcha.

I swear I don't know what they're teaching them. ALL of these guys seem to believe that the East and the West were simply mirror images of one another, no right, no wrong, each as culpable as the other for the Cold War.

That's total crap. THEY were the Bad Guys; WE were the Good Guys. Anybody that can't recognize that is morally retarded.

Bella · 02-25-2008, 00:22 AM

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Originally Posted by kato

If there was a US embassy in Kosovo (there isn't of course), it would mean the US already accepted Kosovo's independance long ago

You know what I mean!

T_igger_cs_30 · 02-25-2008, 00:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Bluesman

I swear I don't know what they're teaching them. ALL of these guys seem to believe that the East and the West were simply mirror images of one another, no right, no wrong, each as culpable as the other for the Cold War.

That's total crap. THEY were the Bad Guys; WE were the Good Guys. Anybody that can't recognize that is morally retarded.

You know what scares me Bluesman, a lot of the younger generation actually believe it is shamefull to be proud of and loyal to your country, its hard to pinpoint exactly but the reality is our youth of today are influenced heavily by there school teachers, I know I risk a full blown barrage here for that comment, of course I am not saying all teachers, but I find a lot off teachers today do not treat the position as a vocation anymore, its a job and a platform for them to influence our youth with there own ideals,not teach and guide without bias.

osplant · 02-25-2008, 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by S-2

"The great powers, USA, the former Soviet Union, Great British and France after dividing Berlin and whole Germany left the rest nations to the known sphere of influence and have done nothing either to restore the situation or to provide justice."

That's indefensible. Where've you been for the last sixty-three years. That wasn't us that drew an "iron curtain" across Europe and I'd suggest that the Common Market, NATO, the EU, and the UN modestly, remotely, and obliquely hint at network of alliances and treaties that boggle the informed mind.

For those uninformed souls such as you, it's simply beyond comprehension.

Let me guess- Greece, orthodox. Serbia, orthodox. Muslims bad. Orthodox good.

Gotcha.

Your oversimplified approach confirms your ignorance of the situation. It is normal and understandable.

You should obtain some awareness of the area otherwise you are employing the method of learning through the mistakes that indeed is very productive.

Your guess is incorrect and smells naive kid's americanism.

gunnut · 02-25-2008, 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by T_igger_cs_30

You know what scares me Bluesman, a lot of the younger generation actually believe it is shamefull to be proud of and loyal to your country, its hard to pinpoint exactly but the reality is our youth of today are influenced heavily by there school teachers, I know I risk a full blown barrage here for that comment, of course I am not saying all teachers, but I find a lot off teachers today do not treat the position as a vocation anymore, its a job and a platform for them to influence our youth with there own ideals,not teach and guide without bias.

Marx and Lenin are laughing right now.

ndzesop · 02-25-2008, 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Officer of Engineers

Unfortunate that we do not see eye to eye with our friends.

I welcome Kosovo's independence and do not understand why Belgrade did not comply with international law by protecting diplomatic missions. But what if Kosovo inspired or made a case for other secessionists around the World in places like Morocco (Sahara), Cameroon (Southern Cameroons), China (Tibet, Tiwan), Spain (Basque), Senegal (Casamance). History may be in the making

Lakisthes · 02-25-2008, 13:01 PM

And I dont understand why US did not comply to international law by recotnising Kosovo?You cannot expect us to comply to international law when YOU don't.

Dreadnought · 02-25-2008, 15:32 PM

"Hey buddy, look on the positive side. At least you will have an actual reason to attack Iran, rather the repeating the Iraq "WMD" lie scenario and making your selves looking like complete idiots"

If you wanted to look like an idiot for that segment of a sentence then be my guest. WMD were found none the less. Now who is the complete idiots? In addition the murder of thousands for a failed assaination coup would be just another reason and there are still many more.

No, We wont attack them we will just sit back and watch Israel destroy them and the nuclear capability you are feeding them.

Now if you want to talk idiots lets go back to Afghanistan in the 1980's. A soviet army spending 9 years and nothing but losses.

Dreadnought · 02-25-2008, 15:43 PM

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Originally Posted by MrFirst

Some people here prefer to discuss idiot questions like "why the rioters attack US embassy", meanwhile the answer is obvious for every normal, sane and logically-thinking man.
Because the USA headed the aggression against Yugoslavia in 1999, because the US planes bombed Belgrade and all Serbia, because the US tanks came into Kosovo, because the US biggest military base was founded there, because the USA encouraged Albanians during these years and because the USA actuated their so-called "independence".
Maybe next the USA will support Basques in Spain, the Irish in Britain, the muslims and Corsicans in France. And then these people will be wondering - why the rioters attack US embassies in Madrid, London, Paris?.. Oh, it's so strange - we are so kind, we're bringing democracy and freedom, why those strange and silly rioters attack US embassy?..

Absolutely not understandable!

By the way, when are you going to free Basques, Paris muslims and Corsicans?

Imagine that, A Russian calling the kettle black. Shall we review your history up until the eighties? with Afghanistan, Muslims etc etc etc? Ring a bell might it?

No need to reply, We wouldnt want polonium-210 to turn up in your coffee.

MrFirst · 02-25-2008, 16:23 PM

Such coffee is on sale only in London cafes. Pure English drink.

No need to reply because you have nothing to reply.

Dreadnought · 02-25-2008, 17:00 PM

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Originally Posted by MrFirst

Such coffee is on sale only in London cafes. Pure English drink.

No need to reply because you have nothing to reply.

Such cofee is on sale only for critics of Putin and the former KGB now FSB.

I didn't think you wanted to discuss history!

02-24-2008, 17:43 PM	#64 (permalink)
S-2 *Military Professional* Join Date: 09-11-06 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 2,057 Country:	Osplant Reply "The great powers, USA, the former Soviet Union, Great British and France after dividing Berlin and whole Germany left the rest nations to the known sphere of influence and have done nothing either to restore the situation or to provide justice." That's indefensible. Where've you been for the last sixty-three years. That wasn't us that drew an "iron curtain" across Europe and I'd suggest that the Common Market, NATO, the EU, and the UN modestly, remotely, and obliquely hint at network of alliances and treaties that boggle the informed mind. For those uninformed souls such as you, it's simply beyond comprehension. Let me guess- Greece, orthodox. Serbia, orthodox. Muslims bad. Orthodox good. Gotcha. __________________ "This aggression will not stand, man!" Jeff Lebowski

02-25-2008, 15:32 PM	#72 (permalink)
Dreadnought *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 05-12-05 Posts: 5,242 Country:	"Hey buddy, look on the positive side. At least you will have an actual reason to attack Iran, rather the repeating the Iraq "WMD" lie scenario and making your selves looking like complete idiots" If you wanted to look like an idiot for that segment of a sentence then be my guest. WMD were found none the less. Now who is the complete idiots? In addition the murder of thousands for a failed assaination coup would be just another reason and there are still many more. No, We wont attack them we will just sit back and watch Israel destroy them and the nuclear capability you are feeding them. Now if you want to talk idiots lets go back to Afghanistan in the 1980's. A soviet army spending 9 years and nothing but losses. __________________ Fortitude.....The strength to persist...The courage to endure.

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