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Canmoore · 02-17-2008, 17:25 PM

Jean Chretien is now advising Dion to trigger an election...sad is it not?

CTV.ca | Chretien advises Dion to trigger election: analyst

smilingassassin · 02-18-2008, 10:59 AM

Jean Chretien is Canada's Bill Clinton, he still doesn't realise he's no longer prime minister and is still trying to hog the spotlight.

Canmoore · 02-18-2008, 23:20 PM

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Originally Posted by smilingassassin

Jean Chretien is Canada's Bill Clinton, he still doesn't realise he's no longer prime minister and is still trying to hog the spotlight.

sooo true lol

**TopHatter** · 02-19-2008, 00:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ZFBoxcar

They were joking.

Oh really?

We need breathing room!

Canmoore · 02-26-2008, 19:37 PM

CTV.ca | Dion says he won't trigger election over budget

Well.. three chances to knock the government down, and Dion did nothing each time..

The Liberals are fading into obscurity fast...to bad Harper will not get a chance to get a majority until 2010, the next federal election.. I if Dion allows that to happen, than Harpers Conservatives will be the only minority government in Canadian history to span the full four years of a term.

William Lyon Mackenzie King had the longest minority government in Canadian history elected in 1921 his government stood for 3 years and 326 days..just shy of the 4 year mark!!

He would win two more consecutive elections both resulting in minority governments as well! His second government elected in 1925 stood for 319 days. His third minority government elected in 1926 also nearly stood for the full 4 year tearm at 3 years and 317 days!!

Currently Harpers Minority Government has stood 2 years, 20 days.

**ZFBoxcar** · 02-26-2008, 19:57 PM

What do you think of the budget? Not much to it in my opinion, which is not really a bad thing, given the rapid spending increases of the last couple years. The Tax Free Savings Account is interesting, but it seems like one of those things that is only going to really cost a future government, not the current one. The crown corporation to handle Employment Insurance is good too, but will also probably not cut payroll taxes until the next government, considering how important the EI surplus (47 billion dollars!) is to government revenue.

I don't really have too much to complain about, the only thing I was hoping would be there that wasn't was an enrichment of the Working Income Tax Benefit (to Americans on the board WITB is basically the same thing as your EITC - but we were behind you guys and only created ours last year).

Canmoore · 02-27-2008, 23:44 PM

Apparently the government is predicting a slow down in the economy in the near future, so I think that a quiet budget that encourages people to save is good. I remember hearing a stat, that the majority of Canadians are in debt and spend outside of there means rather than saving.. Thats fine when the economy is booming, but the cards are reading a slow down.. so encouraging people to save may be for the better interest of everyone.

Flower · 02-28-2008, 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Canmoore

Apparently the government is predicting a slow down in the economy in the near future,

This is not unexpected. As Stephane Dion recently said, this slowdown is the result of the Harper governments mismanagement of the economy!

**ZFBoxcar** · 02-28-2008, 09:14 AM

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This is not unexpected. As Stephane Dion recently said, this slowdown is the result of the Harper governments mismanagement of the economy!

Um, no. This is a result of the high Canadian dollar and the slowdown in the US. If you blame monetary policy (which has been reasonable) that is the responsibility of the Bank of Canada, which is independent of the government. There hasn't really been any fiscal policy that would lead to a slowdown, in fact, people accused the GST cuts (which I don't approve of) of being too much stimulus, back when stimulus was said to be bad. Name one Harper policy that would qualify as slowing down the economy. I am not really a fan of this government, but when you get your knowledge about economics from Dion, who doesn't speak unless it is to bash the current government, I have to assume you don't know what you're talking about. You are hurting your party's image.

Flower · 02-28-2008, 19:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ZFBoxcar

Um, no. This is a result of the high Canadian dollar and the slowdown in the US. If you blame monetary policy (which has been reasonable) that is the responsibility of the Bank of Canada, which is independent of the government. There hasn't really been any fiscal policy that would lead to a slowdown, in fact, people accused the GST cuts (which I don't approve of) of being too much stimulus, back when stimulus was said to be bad. Name one Harper policy that would qualify as slowing down the economy. I am not really a fan of this government, but when you get your knowledge about economics from Dion, who doesn't speak unless it is to bash the current government, I have to assume you don't know what you're talking about. You are hurting your party's image.

Please read this and you will see for yourself!

Canmoore · 02-28-2008, 23:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Flower

Please read this and you will see for yourself!

Um.. your link was to liberal propaganda about how they will better run the economy... There is not even one sentence that highlights a Conservative policy that is to blame for a slowdown..

Flower · 03-01-2008, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Canmoore

Um.. your link was to liberal propaganda about how they will better run the economy... There is not even one sentence that highlights a Conservative policy that is to blame for a slowdown..

That is because the Liberal Party does not use negative political advertising!

glyn · 03-01-2008, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Flower

That is because the Liberal Party does not use negative political advertising!

I think you must be very young to have so much altruism that you believe such political statements. Probably we were all like that in our youth.

Age and experience turns us all into cynics.

**ZFBoxcar** · 03-01-2008, 09:31 AM

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That is because the Liberal Party does not use negative political advertising!

Right. Well, even assuming thats true (and it isn't: remember the troops in the cities ad?) then you are admitting you have no proof whatsoever that the Conservatives are responsible for the slowdown of the economy.

Flower · 03-02-2008, 00:25 AM

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Originally Posted by ZFBoxcar

Right. Well, even assuming thats true (and it isn't: remember the troops in the cities ad?) then you are admitting you have no proof whatsoever that the Conservatives are responsible for the slowdown of the economy.

No, No! I am still searching for my proof that the Conservative's bad economic policy is resulting in the economic slowdown. Also, I don't know for sure if the troops on our streets ad ever made it to televisions. I thought it got cut early, but there was a big deal about it anyway.

02-18-2008, 10:59 AM	#47 (permalink)
smilingassassin *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 12-12-03 Location: Vancouver Canada Posts: 2,713 Country:	Jean Chretien is Canada's Bill Clinton, he still doesn't realise he's no longer prime minister and is still trying to hog the spotlight. __________________ Facts to a liberal is like Kryptonite to Superman. -- Larry Elder

02-26-2008, 19:37 PM	#50 (permalink)
Canmoore *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 05-18-06 Location: Canada Posts: 1,327 Country:	CTV.ca \| Dion says he won't trigger election over budget Well.. three chances to knock the government down, and Dion did nothing each time.. The Liberals are fading into obscurity fast...to bad Harper will not get a chance to get a majority until 2010, the next federal election.. I if Dion allows that to happen, than Harpers Conservatives will be the only minority government in Canadian history to span the full four years of a term. William Lyon Mackenzie King had the longest minority government in Canadian history elected in 1921 his government stood for 3 years and 326 days..just shy of the 4 year mark!! He would win two more consecutive elections both resulting in minority governments as well! His second government elected in 1925 stood for 319 days. His third minority government elected in 1926 also nearly stood for the full 4 year tearm at 3 years and 317 days!! Currently Harpers Minority Government has stood 2 years, 20 days. Last edited by Canmoore : 02-26-2008 at 19:47 PM.

02-26-2008, 19:57 PM	#51 (permalink)
ZFBoxcar Moderator Join Date: 08-03-03 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 2,122 Country:	What do you think of the budget? Not much to it in my opinion, which is not really a bad thing, given the rapid spending increases of the last couple years. The Tax Free Savings Account is interesting, but it seems like one of those things that is only going to really cost a future government, not the current one. The crown corporation to handle Employment Insurance is good too, but will also probably not cut payroll taxes until the next government, considering how important the EI surplus (47 billion dollars!) is to government revenue. I don't really have too much to complain about, the only thing I was hoping would be there that wasn't was an enrichment of the Working Income Tax Benefit (to Americans on the board WITB is basically the same thing as your EITC - but we were behind you guys and only created ours last year). Last edited by ZFBoxcar : 02-26-2008 at 19:59 PM.

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Canmoore *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 05-18-06 Location: Canada Posts: 1,327 Country:	Apparently the government is predicting a slow down in the economy in the near future, so I think that a quiet budget that encourages people to save is good. I remember hearing a stat, that the majority of Canadians are in debt and spend outside of there means rather than saving.. Thats fine when the economy is booming, but the cards are reading a slow down.. so encouraging people to save may be for the better interest of everyone.

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