Canadians, I hope you're deeply ashamed of your government... - Page 3

astralis · 01-25-2008, 22:54 PM

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But the brick to the head is the fact that the HRC exists and has legal power.

everytime i see "HRC", for some reason "hillary rodham clinton" runs through my head....

Bluesman · 01-26-2008, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by dalem

But the brick to the head is the fact that the HRC exists and has legal power. That is the whole point. Empty heads rave for years about the Patriot Act here in the States and Bushitler's crushing of our civil rights. There in Canuckistan you guys have a govt agency that is specifically empowered to regulate what you SAY in a way that the craziest preacher-censor-type here in the States couldn't come up with.

But at least you also have a guy with the big brass ones to point it out to people.

-dale

Precisely. He's called their bluff, finally, and we're going to see if the HRC wants to back down...or go all the way to FORCE. If they choose that option, I say it's time to actually resist, and protests aren't what I'm talking about.

For now, I am encouraged and very gratified to see Lavant doing what he's doing the way he's doing it. It's proper and he's within his rights, just as he was before he caught the eye of these nazi bastards that are trying to make him be quiet. Not the time to fight back in violent ways, and as long as this is kept in this form - government getting huffy about what you say, sending bureaucrats to hassle you, demanding that you explain yourself, and describe your purpose when you exercised your rights, etc. - then fight 'em in a philosophical arena, through the system.

But the first time some goon puts his hand on you, or places a lien on your property, or physically prevents you from saying or printing whatever the hell you want (with those exceptions that Lavant acknowledges are granted to the state)...then it is ON, man, and ANYthing he needs to do to protect himself or his property is justified.

Bluesman · 01-27-2008, 03:58 AM

World-class snark, here:

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Coming to a human rights commission near you
Rex Murphy
From Saturday’s Globe and Mail

Our esteemed human rights commissions are so busy these days, it worries me.

The number of these gimlet-eyed scrutineers is, after all, finite.

There is, therefore, only a limited store of intellectual energy and moral fervour for them to call upon. In a brutish world, righteousness is not inexhaustible; virtue, like oil, has its peak moments and, with their current agenda, Canada’s HRCs may run out of fuel.

Alberta’s Human Rights Commission, one of the keenest, a noble avatar of those old censor boards that used to guard public libraries from “steamy” literature and “brazen” language, is trying to contain – I think that is the only proper verb here – Ezra Levant.

Mr. Levant has, as the jargon expresses it, “gone before” the commission to answer for the putative crime, offence, tastelessness of his (now defunct) magazine, the Western Standard’s publication of the Mohammed cartoons. But even the sturdiest tribunal can summon forces too large for it to manage. And even the deepest probing commissioner, alert as a tuning-fork to the harmonies of political correctness, should have quailed before the thought of putting Ezra Levant under state-mandated interrogation.

His initial hearing is an Internet hit. He videotaped it, you see, and against the urgings of the commission placed in on the World Wide Web.

His performance, a marathon aria to free speech, looks to outpace even Jessica Alba beach footage as a web draw. More than 400,000 visitors have YouTubed Mr. Levant (A Daniel, I say, a Daniel come to judgment on Canadian free speech!). He is as a tidal wave breaking against a lone and solitary craft.

So Alberta’s HRC is, to put it timidly, busy with Ezra Levant. And now, three others have had the courage, folly, or zeal, or, if you wish, the zealously courageous foolishness, to take on Maclean’s magazine and Mark Steyn. The martyrs in question are, respectively, the Ontario, B.C. and federal HRCs. It’s a busy time in the world of magazine censorship – and a bull market for the litigious and offended. John Donne comes to mind: “Lawyers find out still litigious men, whom quarrels move” and, if you are both, well, Canada is ripe with HRCs that want your business.

The question is, of course, does an HRC, or even a pack of them, really want to take on an institution as beloved as Maclean’s? Next only to the Eaton’s catalogue of sacred memory, Maclean’s is a talisman of the Canadian way, it is Tim Hortons in print. For more than a century, Maclean’s has stimulated minds, its back copies have intellectualized many a dental crisis; rolled up, it has been the fly swatter of choice for thousands. Approach Maclean’s at your peril.

But, in addition, do they really want – after Ezra’s example, mind you – to call Mark Steyn, the Victoria Falls (“The Smoke that Thunders”) of prolific columnists – into one of their style-less chambers to “explain himself?” If Mr. Levant contains multitudes, how to describe Mr. Steyn? He is a prodigy of immense resource and industry. Compared to him, Trollope was a slacker, Dickens a wastrel, and Proust a miniaturist. He inundates. Books, columns, blogs and obiter dicta in a thousand venues – if Mr. Steyn goes before one or all of these commissions, he will be firing off columns between questions. He’ll write a column on a question while it is being asked. I urge our guardians to consider their own interests: Stay a while before essaying this profitless and useless venture.

A Maclean’s/Steyn confrontation, in tandem with the prairie whirlwind we all know as Levant rampant – this is too much at one time for the meticulous and tidy tribunals that alone are our guardians against every stray thought that might fracture our fabulously delicate Canadian sensibilities. While they are preoccupied with Steyn-Levant, overwhelmed, exhausted and undone by Steyn-Levant, battered, borne-down on and befuddled by Steyn-Levant – who will watch out for us?

Who will there be to read before we read, and tell us what is proper for us? Who will be there to edit the editors, to copy check the copy checkers? Who will shield our vulnerable law-students, and who will tend to the commission’s most industrious serial complainant. There is one person, so eggshell brittle that he has drummed up a fierce amount of business for the HRCs. Is so loyal a customer now to be ignored because the Steyn-Levant tsunami is about to rumble mercilessly on shore?

Mostly I fear, if the HRCs are tied up, Canadians will be reading, unguided, what they choose to read, deciding for themselves what they like and what they don’t, will discard a book or pass it to a friend, like a column or curse one – lit only by the light of their own reason.

The horror! Before we know it, we’ll have an unstoppable epidemic of free speech, free thought, and freedom of the press. And, surely, no one wants that. Otherwise, why would we have human rights commissions?

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glyn · 01-27-2008, 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Bluesman

World-class snark, here:

And it proves once again that humour is a deadly weapon!

Exarecr · 02-01-2008, 21:05 PM

Rex Murphy is on the She-BC,silly me,I ment the CBC every night and this guy can articulate anything. On Wednesday he did a piece on Canada and its commitment to Afghanistan and it was a great read. To bad our politicians don't understand English enough to know what a set of balls are.

Expat Canuck · 02-02-2008, 02:05 AM

That was awesome Blue, thanks!

brokensickle · 02-04-2008, 00:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Bluesman

...and enormously proud of Mr. Ezra Lavant, a true hero.

Watch and learn what valor in the face of unjustly wielded power looks like.

Blues,

Good article,

This is a video that all Canadian's and American's should see. The response videos have been removed...Hmm.

I believe that the government bureaucrats are happy recieving their paychecks and then putting pressure on people that would do them no harm.

If they put pressure on the Muslim groups they would be in danger, so hense they favor the most dangerous whom they fear (the Muslim's). They have no fear of Ezra Levant because he will not take their lives if they do not judge in his favor. So they ignore the law in favor of the ones who would reak terror on their person.

The big problem is how do we get the bureaucrat's to face up to the looming problem. I personally think that the government wishes the problem would just go away as they see the Muslim as wielding more power in influence by the politically correct derangement/mess the left has brought upon our lands.

Ivan

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