How many politicians does it take to change a light bulb? - Page 2

Feanor · 12-22-2007, 18:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Bluesman

And let it be noted that I'm criticizing a Republican administration, so to all of you that have lied about my supposedly slavish devotion to Bush, you are, and always have been...WRONG.

Owww. You probably can't read this (you're busy ignoring me

) but I certainly stand corrected in my opinion of you

i hate fluorescents myself. They're bright. And annoying. And cold. I hate them. I hate them I hate them I hate them. Yes more then hippies. Or capitalists for that matter

crooks · 12-22-2007, 18:52 PM

I like them - the lifespan is excellent, and I've had no problem ever reading under one, though it seems others have.

I also would note they definetly are more economical to use - though banning the older types seems a bit bizarre

.

S65 · 12-23-2007, 03:00 AM

The great irony coming from a chemical background is that CFLs still contribute to hefty environmental pollution. They are made with small amounts of mercury which builds up, especially in light of their being discarded with regular trash.

NPR : CFL Bulbs Have One Hitch: Toxic Mercury

Dwarven Pirate · 12-23-2007, 03:19 AM

Somebody decided to change it for me. No problem. BTW, in America, or the part where I grew up anyhow, piss-poor has connotations of shoddy, worthless, good for nothing more than the sewers, like that.

WhamBam · 12-23-2007, 03:36 AM

Just a thought, if they are expensive to manufacture and purchase, they must use a lot more energy to produce too.

Anyone done a lifetime energy balance calculation for the tradeoff...

WhamBam · 12-23-2007, 03:41 AM

Could it be something like all the elaborate calculations done to get the carbon footprint for the Shampoo to the shelfstore, while the actual energy usage will depend mainly on whether the person takes a bath in hot or cold shower and how much water is used for the bath?

An educated and concerned energy user can anyday do better to conserve energy than these kind of regulations ever will.

**Julie** · 12-23-2007, 23:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bluesman

And let it be noted that I'm criticizing a Republican administration, so to all of you that have lied about my supposedly slavish devotion to Bush, you are, and always have been...WRONG.

Just for the record, I stand corrected.

However, I happen to luv fluorescents, I have them in my garage and in my home. The best part is, they seem to last FOREVER.

Big K · 12-24-2007, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Julie

Just for the record, I stand corrected.

However, I happen to luv fluorescents, I have them in my garage and in my home. The best part is, they seem to last FOREVER.

fluorescents?...i hate them because white light is not natural...it kills every color..

for exemple we forbid the use of fluorescents in our dealers showrooms because you simply can not distinguish the differences between two colors(not black and white of course but closer ones

.
in my house i use 60 to 100Watt bulbs...

entropy · 12-24-2007, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by omon

and 10-15 years later they will say similar things about cfl, and will push to replase them with led,
kinda similar to 3gal toilets were removed , and replaced with 1.6 gal.
thou you still can keep 3 gal if you have doctors notice, (he basicly has to give medecal explanation that your crap takes more than 1.6 gal to flush),

1.6 gal?

That's a terribly underpowered toilet!

omon · 12-24-2007, 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big K

fluorescents?...i hate them because white light is not natural...it kills every color..

for exemple we forbid the use of fluorescents in our dealers showrooms because you simply can not distinguish the differences between two colors(not black and white of course but closer ones

.
in my house i use 60 to 100Watt bulbs...

that is cuz you use cool white 3500k(k as in kelvin, color temp.), if you use 5500k and up, situation is totaly different,
btw, aquariums, and body shop paint boot use 6500k(unless they are too cheap) , it really brings out colors.

glyn · 12-24-2007, 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by omon

that is cuz you use cool white 3500k(k as in kelvin, color temp.), if you use 5500k and up, situation is totaly different,
btw, aquariums, and body shop paint boot use 6500k(unless they are too cheap) , it really brings out colors.

Quite right.

I use the so-called 'daylight' bulbs which is nice for reading too.

bonehead · 12-24-2007, 15:30 PM

Any bets when the fluorescent bulbs will be banned in favor of the L.E.D. ?

omon · 12-24-2007, 15:42 PM

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Originally Posted by bonehead

Any bets when the fluorescent bulbs will be banned in favor of the L.E.D. ?

10 years, give or take few,
automakers use them more and more
you can buy now par 36 led bulb, mr16 led, gu10 led, almost any bulb you can think of has led replacment. they are costly now a days, but price dropping slowly by surely, 5 years ago 5600mcd 5mm white led was 2.5 3 dollars each, now 5mm 18000mcd cost about 35-50cents each.

p.s. and to no surprice 90% of led's come from china

dalem · 12-24-2007, 18:09 PM

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Originally Posted by entropy

1.6 gal?

That's a terribly underpowered toilet!

Especially on burrito night.

-dale

smilingassassin · 12-24-2007, 18:19 PM

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Originally Posted by dalem

Especially on burrito night.

-dale

...I probably shouldn't have been eating when I read this post

12-22-2007, 18:52 PM	#17 (permalink)
crooks Green, White 'n Orange *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 10-17-06 Location: Blarney, County Cork, Ireland Posts: 1,291 Country:	I like them - the lifespan is excellent, and I've had no problem ever reading under one, though it seems others have. I also would note they definetly are more economical to use - though banning the older types seems a bit bizarre . __________________ 'Liberty - it is newly strung and shall be heard.' - Motto of the United Irishmen.

12-23-2007, 03:36 AM	#20 (permalink)
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12-23-2007, 03:00 AM	#18 (permalink)
S65 Regular Join Date: 12-22-07 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 35 Country:	The great irony coming from a chemical background is that CFLs still contribute to hefty environmental pollution. They are made with small amounts of mercury which builds up, especially in light of their being discarded with regular trash. NPR : CFL Bulbs Have One Hitch: Toxic Mercury

12-23-2007, 03:19 AM	#19 (permalink)
Dwarven Pirate Contributor Join Date: 08-20-07 Posts: 325	Somebody decided to change it for me. No problem. BTW, in America, or the part where I grew up anyhow, piss-poor has connotations of shoddy, worthless, good for nothing more than the sewers, like that.

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WhamBam Contributor Join Date: 02-27-07 Location: India Posts: 628 Country:	Could it be something like all the elaborate calculations done to get the carbon footprint for the Shampoo to the shelfstore, while the actual energy usage will depend mainly on whether the person takes a bath in hot or cold shower and how much water is used for the bath? An educated and concerned energy user can anyday do better to conserve energy than these kind of regulations ever will.

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