FarSide

Hello again everyone, FarSide here.

What I've noticed in lurking on these forums is that most people tend to judge the whole by the actions of the few. Now, of course if that "few" is the representative of that "whole" than such a comparison is valid. However, that is often not the case. Examples follow.

1. Senator Reid is a moron.

This is true. Reid is a talentless political hack as well as the Senate Majority Leader, as such he was chosen for this position by his colleagues. His actions reflect on those who chose him, the congressional democrats, not all democrats. I am personally neither a Democrat or a Republican. I do however, find myself agreeing more with the Democrats than Republicans. When I turn 18, I will register as a Democrat simple because I want to vote in the primary election. When I do register, I will be a Democrat, that does not mean that I support that moon bat Reid.

2. Paul Wolfowitz is a very dangerous and foolish man.

Again, just because he worked for the DOD doesn't mean that his actions reflect upon the whole of the DOD. His actions do reflect upon those that supported him but not everyone in the Federal Govt or the DOD.

3. Code: Pink and moveon.org are equally dangerous and foolish.

They are almost all Democrats, they are not elected by the common democrats and their actions reflect only upon themselves, not the whole of the democratic party.

4. President Bush is a moron. Senator McCain is not.

Yet they are both republicans, chosen by their parties for that position.

5. Kathy Castor is a good Representative. Bill Young is a good Senator. Nancy Pelosi is the devil. Reid is a moron.

Yet all of them are Democrats. Shocking.

What I'm saying basically boils down to this: Do not take the actions of some moon bat Democrats and apply them to all democrats. Do not take the actions of all fruit cake republicans and apply them to all republicans.

gunnut

Democrats should police their own a little better. Media and politicians alike should stand up to Moveon.org and Code Pink.

Why is William Jefferson still in office? The man was found to have $90k of bribe money stashed in his freezer. Democrats circled the wagon to keep him in office.

What exactly did Larry Craig do that deserved the republican leadership calling for his resignation? Picking up an annonymous sexual partner at a public bathroom is a crime now? Did he offer to pay for sex? If he didn't, is that illegal now? Should we bust everyone who has ever had a one-night stand?

There lies the difference. Democrats have no shame. Those who do aren't speaking out. Republicans at least has some. Those who do actually speak out.

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Feanor

NKVD tribunals... summary executions..... NKVD tribunals..... summary executions...... sorry day dreaming

About the one night stand.... please don't bust me

dalem

On this board, and in the outside world in general, Conservatives and Republicans tend to be more openly critical of their own, and put principle before the personal.

Easy example of this is Senator Larry Craig (R, ID) vs. Congressman Jefferson (D, LA).

Senator Craig has received nothing but the cold shoulder and calls for resignation from fellow Republicans since his "wide stance" silliness and rather pathetic reaction to it. This was across the board and includes colleagues, professional punditry, and us li'l ol' layfolk, the voters. His political career, as a Republican, is most likely over.

We (since I am currently using the Republican Party) don't want a person that dim and arrogant as a major player in our party. It's icky. Makes us ALL look bad, because we have a choice of who gets our support and confidence.

Rep. "Freezer Cash" Jefferson? He gets appointed to committees. Given positions of MORE responsibility. Hell, he'll probably get re-elected.

Bottom line is that it is possible to shame Republicans/Conservatives as a group for individual behavior. It is not possible to do so for Democrats/Liberals.

-dale

dalem

I find it interesting, yet not surprising, that Gunnut and I posted essentially exactly the same thing using exactly the same examples.

Great minds, eh?

-dale

Dwarven Pirate

There are examples on both sides of the aisle. All sides of the aisle, rather.

Your posts might as well have said "WRONG! Democrats eat children but Republicans are true believers."

Farside is correct.

Now please show me some republicans that are demanding Don Young's resignation and who were ashamed of Abramoff before his day in court.

I'm sure there are some, just as there are Democrats who descry Jefferson. Besides, Jefferson and Craig are hardly comparable in terms of corruption. Who, outside of the homophobic republican party, really cares whose penis Craig desires.

FibrillatorD

Well said, DP

dalem

But Abramoff is GONE. Jefferson isn't.

-dale

Dwarven Pirate

Guess you couldn't find any....