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View Poll Results: Has Sarkozy improved your perception of France
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Old 11-08-2007, 11:17 AM   #16 (permalink)
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The poll is no good. 3 categories of people, those who like Sarcozy, those who dislike, and those who don't know/don't care. But because of the phrasing those who dislike and don't know/don't care end up in one category.
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Old 11-08-2007, 13:15 PM   #17 (permalink)
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The poll is no good. 3 categories of people, those who like Sarcozy, those who dislike, and those who don't know/don't care. But because of the phrasing those who dislike and don't know/don't care end up in one category.
Simply abstaining is a perfectly valid way to answer any vote.
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Old 11-08-2007, 13:32 PM   #18 (permalink)
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IMO I do like the way he handles himself but for me too soon to tell about our intrests.
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Old 11-08-2007, 14:56 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Freedom Fries anyone?
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Freedom Fries anyone?
Have you not noticed the sudden resurgence in the interest of cheese?
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Old 11-08-2007, 18:40 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Have you not noticed the sudden resurgence in the interest of cheese?
I hate runny cheese.

I hate stinky cheese.

I hate rotten cheese.

I like simple cheese.

Mmmm, cheese.

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Old 11-08-2007, 21:48 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I like American cheese. The problem is American cheese isn't really cheese. It's a blend of different cheeses and then processed, just like all our junk foods.

I don't think I've ever had real cheese nor do I think I'll like them.
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Old 11-08-2007, 22:49 PM   #23 (permalink)
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The poll is no good. 3 categories of people, those who like Sarcozy, those who dislike, and those who don't know/don't care. But because of the phrasing those who dislike and don't know/don't care end up in one category.
Like Glyn said, people who don't care or don't know don't need to comment or cast a vote.
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Old 11-08-2007, 23:32 PM   #24 (permalink)
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I like American cheese. The problem is American cheese isn't really cheese. It's a blend of different cheeses and then processed, just like all our junk foods.

I don't think I've ever had real cheese nor do I think I'll like them.
Gunnut:

May I correct you. If labeled "American Cheese" it is cheese. The cheese you descibed is required to be labeled "American Process..." Fools people all the time...
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I read the text of Sarkozy's speech. A thought occurred to me: the President of France - FRANCE! - is more pro-American that any Democrat in Congress (except Lieberman, a pariah to the rest of his party).

On the one hand, I am astonished that there's a French politician that could even be elected to high office that didn't make his contempt for the United States a central part of his platform. But I'm not at all surprised that a learned, accomplished, foreign-born man of substance would be a bigger booster of America than the combined strength of the entire Democratic Congressional majority.
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I read the text of Sarkozy's speech. A thought occurred to me: the President of France - FRANCE! - is more pro-American that any Democrat in Congress (except Lieberman, a pariah to the rest of his party).

On the one hand, I am astonished that there's a French politician that could even be elected to high office that didn't make his contempt for the United States a central part of his platform. But I'm not at all surprised that a learned, accomplished, foreign-born man of substance would be a bigger booster of America than the combined strength of the entire Democratic Congressional majority.
France, or Sarkozy if you will, realizes that its future welfare depends a great deal on how the US fares in the ME. Sarkozy, in particular, realizes France would be better able to influence US policy from a position of friendship than from hostility. Then, of course, it would be nice if Americans got back to drinking French wines.
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My wife and I did our bit: we bought some French Camembert with cranberries, on purpose.
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I like American cheese. The problem is American cheese isn't really cheese. It's a blend of different cheeses and then processed, just like all our junk foods.

I don't think I've ever had real cheese nor do I think I'll like them.
- are you serious?

Real Cheese is something you HAVE to taste, it's tons better, I'd recommend just about any European one (Dutch and Irish being my favourites, but I've yet to taste a bad one after being in 9 contries on the continent, as well as Scotland and Wales).
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- are you serious?

Real Cheese is something you HAVE to taste, it's tons better, I'd recommend just about any European one (Dutch and Irish being my favourites, but I've yet to taste a bad one after being in 9 contries on the continent, as well as Scotland and Wales).
American cheese is processed. JAD thinks it's still cheese. But the real cheese afficionados don't believe so.

I have tasted the sliced American cheese and various other types of sliced varieties. I just haven't had a chance to observe the cheese I eat for whatever reason comes from a block of cheese like how it was made.
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American cheese is processed. JAD thinks it's still cheese. But the real cheese afficionados don't believe so.

I have tasted the sliced American cheese and various other types of sliced varieties. I just haven't had a chance to observe the cheese I eat for whatever reason comes from a block of cheese like how it was made.
Well, cheddar cheese made in America is cheese.... as would be colby, mozzarella, etc... that stuff in the individual wrappers is process cheese.
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