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Old 11-05-2007, 03:23 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Who is behind Turkey's threat against the only stable region of Iraq?

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Who is behind Turkey's threat against the only Stable Region of Iraq + ?

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Turkey's current threats for military aggression inside the only Stable Region of Iraq, risking to destroy U.S. efforts to find a political solution for the Future of the country, hide a Mystery :

Obviously, the too frequent and recurring pretexts about a few Kurdish clashes with the Turkish Military, (partly provoked f.ex. by Turkish actions against elected Mayors, etc), are not the real reason for which Ankara threatens to intervene now, with so much noise :

- The forthcoming Referendum on the Future of the Kurdish Region at Northern Iraq, with Mossul and Kirkuk's oilfields, is naturally the main stake for Turkey. By its threats, Turkey may also attempt to blackmail again the U.S., in order to get concessions on other issues, which risk again to provoke sterile contradictions between the U.S. and its European and other allies.

- But Ankara alone, who proved unable for 23 years to stop its internal Kurdish clashes, or to settle the issue politically without provoking terrorism, would be even less able to face the U.S., together with the Iraqi government, Europe, Russia, the U.N. and the entire International Community, by a Military Invasion of another Country, which risks to turn all Iraq into an even worse bloody chaos, if it wasn't backed by someone else.

Who might be hidden now behind Turkey ?

- Simple logic says that the most probable suspect is the same network which pushed the U.S. President GWBush in Iraq's Sly Trap in 2003, in an attempt to overthrow him at the latest in the 2004 Presidential Election, mainly for his opposal to dangerous Genetic Manipulation of Human Embryo (see f.ex. 8/2001, 2005 and 2007 decisions or Vetoes), as developments already proved :

- After former UK "New Labour" PM Mr. Bliar's notorious Iraq lies, his cronies and their notorious links to UK-US and other countries' pro-Genetic Manipulation networks of some irresponsible "Liberals", failed (thanks God !) at the last minute (thanks God !) in the 2004 U.S. Election, now they are back, targetting the 2008 vote !

Who would profit from Destabilising Iraq and Stopping current efforts to find a political solution to the Future of the country, at the eve of 2008 US Presidential Election, while also threatening to undermine new and better prospects for U.S. - Europe relations, by abusively pushing the Turkish pown ? Obviously Mr. Bliar's liberal British cronies and US liberal pals...


- But U.S. President GWBush' Personal Experience, from 2001 to 2004, until Today, is full enough of pertinent Facts which can arm him with a Strong Conscience on the Substance of the Real Issues at stake, for America, the World, and even Humankind.

US President GWBush won an unexpected but Crystal-clear Victory in 2004 Presidential Election, with strong Majority distancing his Dem. rival with more than 3 Million of Voters' large margin, which gave him a Solid Mandate until the End of 2008.

=> No more "Sly Traps", nor concessions to those sly, dangerous, selfish and wrong-doing networks !
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Old 11-11-2007, 23:18 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Turkey is moving to a Islamic model that it the situation

The present Turkish political party is full of pro Islamic , and it has being undermining the secular institution academia , government offices, business, in the media, and in the military replacing in slowly but at steady pace from government officials to military with anti secular elements. While the America system has a check and balance between the legislative, executive and judicial, the parliamentary system lack such check and balance and allow that a party like in the case of Turkey's ruling party to control of more than 80% of the parliament without having receive the such per cent of votes from the voters.

The secular parties in Turkey were corrupt and they were divided.
So , they lost their chances . The military understand that unlike the past, the presence the middle ranks( so important ) of the military of a new generation of" born again Islamic religious " generation, will not make possible to turn back the clock , to avoid the fall of the secular republic. Also the top echelon of the military has been experiencing a replacement from secular officials to religious one , more supporter of the new regime, the academia, and public education , has produced during the last 3 decades generations of pro Islamic student( overlook so far by most of the Western media, ( which overlook usually most of the world events and national events at least that the guilty party is America or the West) of the Western media prefer to avoid any mention because through indoctrination, our school in the West, our new cadre of teachers, have been guilty to keep turning generations of Western born, into Western haters, or at least loather or full of shame of the feeling proud of their Western culture and more likely than not to feel less patriotic, nationalistic and more sympathetic to the other side

I am sorry to add this comments, but we are witnessing the domino effect, in an Orwellian like Kafka fashion, Western Europe without firing a bullet, becoming from internal penetration into Euroarabia. America through the Mosaic forces heading at slower pace to the same direction and ones never knows the day when even posting what we post will not be possible.

Who could have predicted 40 years ago. that Europe was to going to self inflict her own demise , indoctrinating generations of Europeans who learn to hate or look down to Western culture to not learn Western history , to internalized a double standard , a half truth ,
the WEst is all about Imperialism
the Non WEst is full of spirituality lack the Evil, of the WEst
history past and present in a Orwellian fashion eviscerated in full view and in a free societies by people who have free choices

Against factual evidence , like it never happens, despite the existence of precedents in all continents after so many nations fell into communism system
Pychological repressive fear, concentration camps, gulags, lack of individual freedoms , lack of free election, lifetime rulers , full inequality , new kind of feudal a ruling class full of themselves with personality cults , the leader , like a new kind . and the rest the people , force to cheer due to fear.a chauvinist , anti gay, ( most of the socialist system outlaw 'sodomy)anti women,( women face glass ceiling from middle to upper levels , ) anti diversity , preaching of hate like teaching children to hate others similar to what the the Muslim does to their children teaching them than t non Muslim are evil or like Monkeys not humans and the films and programs from Egypt and other Muslim countries shows such monstrous behavior

Both system applied death penalty , have long records of Imperialism, Colonialism , Conquer, War, genocide ,torture, or slavery ( against blacks )( check the own pc Amnesty International reports arm Build up

By the Cindy Sherman and the Jane Fonda, the Sharpton , the Jacksons, the black , Hispanic caucus , progressives, Liberals, Religious Moderates, priest the Sheens etc so pro peace, against war, death , pro gay, pro woman , against censorship, against police surveillance, against Patriot Acts against giving up names , pro freedom, against death penalty , torture feel very comfortable,happy and proud to support all systems NOn Western or anti Americans
who practice war, torture, death penalty , anti gay, anti women, anti tolerance, institutionalize harassment and denouncements of names and false actions leading to torture , death and desaparecido
of a level and magnitude that makes the Patriot Act and the 1950's less than pale , and while MC , thanks to America political system was remove in the Socialist Marxist system is not stop , ?

And if anyone is not blind the amount of countries who used to support , celebrate , be proud of Western civilization, cultural values and individual freedom are on decline in comparison with 40 years ago so keep sounding the voice of alarm even when the topic is not specific such is a kind of duty before like the title (of Reynaldo Arenas , the Cuban writer) Before the Night Falls

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The present Turkish political party is full of pro Islamic , and it has being undermining the secular institution academia , government offices, business, in the media, and in the military replacing in slowly but at steady pace from government officials to military with anti secular elements. While the America system has a check and balance between the legislative, executive and judicial, the parliamentary system lack such check and balance and allow that a party like in the case of Turkey's ruling party to control of more than 80% of the parliament without having receive the such per cent of votes from the voters.
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The secular parties in Turkey were corrupt and they were divided.
So , they lost their chances . The military understand that unlike the past, the presence the middle ranks( so important ) of the military of a new generation of" born again Islamic religious " generation, will not make possible to turn back the clock , to avoid the fall of the secular republic. Also the top echelon of the military has been experiencing a replacement from secular officials to religious one , more supporter of the new regime, the academia, and public education , has produced during the last 3 decades generations of pro Islamic student( overlook so far by most of the Western media, ( which overlook usually most of the world events and national events at least that the guilty party is America or the West) of the Western media prefer to avoid any mention because through indoctrination, our school in the West, our new cadre of teachers, have been guilty to keep turning generations of Western born, into Western haters, or at least loather or full of shame of the feeling proud of their Western culture and more likely than not to feel less patriotic, nationalistic and more sympathetic to the other side
References??

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I am sorry to add this comments, but we are witnessing the domino effect, in an Orwellian like Kafka fashion, Western Europe without firing a bullet, becoming from internal penetration into Euroarabia. America through the Mosaic forces heading at slower pace to the same direction and ones never knows the day when even posting what we post will not be possible.

Who could have predicted 40 years ago. that Europe was to going to self inflict her own demise , indoctrinating generations of Europeans who learn to hate or look down to Western culture to not learn Western history , to internalized a double standard , a half truth ,
the WEst is all about Imperialism
the Non WEst is full of spirituality lack the Evil, of the WEst
history past and present in a Orwellian fashion eviscerated in full view and in a free societies by people who have free choices

Against factual evidence , like it never happens, despite the existence of precedents in all continents after so many nations fell into communism system
Pychological repressive fear, concentration camps, gulags, lack of individual freedoms , lack of free election, lifetime rulers , full inequality , new kind of feudal a ruling class full of themselves with personality cults , the leader , like a new kind . and the rest the people , force to cheer due to fear.a chauvinist , anti gay, ( most of the socialist system outlaw 'sodomy)anti women,( women face glass ceiling from middle to upper levels , ) anti diversity , preaching of hate like teaching children to hate others similar to what the the Muslim does to their children teaching them than t non Muslim are evil or like Monkeys not humans and the films and programs from Egypt and other Muslim countries shows such monstrous behavior

Both system applied death penalty , have long records of Imperialism, Colonialism , Conquer, War, genocide ,torture, or slavery ( against blacks )( check the own pc Amnesty International reports arm Build up

By the Cindy Sherman and the Jane Fonda, the Sharpton , the Jacksons, the black , Hispanic caucus , progressives, Liberals, Religious Moderates, priest the Sheens etc so pro peace, against war, death , pro gay, pro woman , against censorship, against police surveillance, against Patriot Acts against giving up names , pro freedom, against death penalty , torture feel very comfortable,happy and proud to support all systems NOn Western or anti Americans
who practice war, torture, death penalty , anti gay, anti women, anti tolerance, institutionalize harassment and denouncements of names and false actions leading to torture , death and desaparecido
of a level and magnitude that makes the Patriot Act and the 1950's less than pale , and while MC , thanks to America political system was remove in the Socialist Marxist system is not stop , ?

And if anyone is not blind the amount of countries who used to support , celebrate , be proud of Western civilization, cultural values and individual freedom are on decline in comparison with 40 years ago so keep sounding the voice of alarm even when the topic is not specific such is a kind of duty before like the title (of Reynaldo Arenas , the Cuban writer) Before the Night Falls
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