Officer of Engineers

And here is exactly why A-jad will be allowed to speak and exactly why the MSgt will let him speak. It has nothing to do with the freak. It has everything to do with the US living up to her Word no matter how unpleasant it is.

That is far more important.

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Adux

Sir,

Just trying to create an arguement.

Then what would Iranians think of the Shah.

Moral high ground is not something, nation states can ever take.

Bluesman

I just wish we'd be more concerned with bringing justice to this ogre. He's no more entitled to speak at the UN than ANY thuggish dictator would be, and in some cases, a dam' sight LESS entitled, due to his abrogation of his own country's resposibilities under international agreements.

That he stands behind diplomatic rules is ridiculous, given his PERSONAL participation in the attack on same.

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Bluesman

Oh, hey, I hear ya, mate. I'm not talking about merely being beastly. Hell, if that were the criteria, Turtle Bay would empty out, and the UN building could be converted into shops and office space.

No, I'm talking about according this guy protections that he himself scoffs at. Would HE respect the rules if an enemy's leader delivered themselves right into his hands? NO, he would NOT, and indeed, he HAS not. So, for him to claim that he can walk into the US, after what he's done to international order, is simply WRONG.

Bluesman

That's right, and he has NO right to go anywhere but the port-of-entry, and straight to the UN building. Then, back on the dam' jet, and crawl back under his rock.

Personally, I'd clap the bastard in manacles the instant he came down the air-stair.

TopHatter

Personal attacks = Uh-Uh.

Indirect Fire

This guys a nutjob... Hasn't he heard of something called Dubai, economic prosperity, and globalization?

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Adux

lol

Bluesman

I cleaned up my mess. Sorry, man.

InfiniteDreams

Any american who thinks Ahmadinejad has a right to speak anywhere in the US besides the UN (which is hard enough to stomach) and that by allowing him to do so somehow shows the better side of america is not understanding the big picture and needs to get their head screwed back on.

We are in a de facto war with Iran. Iran has been directly linked to the death of US forces currently serving in OIF. They are in blatant violation of international law in regards to their nuclear weapons program.

The man is an international terrorist who played a major role in the 1979 Iran Hostage Crisis and was directly involved in the kidnaping of american diplomats. That some of you think it's okay for him to come and speak anywhere in the US baffles me.

What we're seeing from Iran and Ahmadinejad is hudna.

Iranian Govermental Murals:
Down With The USA

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BenRoethig

After hearing what they guy said at Columbia, I believe this man is truly insane. Most dictators will play to the crowd by telling them exactly what they want to here. Ahmadinejad said the same damn thing at columbia that he says in iran. To me that says he honestly believes what is coming out of his mouth. That makes him incredibly dangerous.

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TopHatter

Thanks

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I missed Mr Iran's section of the Q and A but I did catch the President of Columbia's opening remarks live. My favorite parts are in bold

Ironduke

Wow, a hell of an introduction. Ahmadinejad then came up to the podium and gave his speech?

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TopHatter

Not sure about that news article, but another article had this to say:

Dunno about being able to say yes it was worth it and a good idea, though Ahmadinejad and Iran were probably thoroughly insulted by Bollinger's opening remarks.

Which was reason enough to hold this little kaffe klatch.

It also showed what happens when a man like Ahmadinejad is put in front of a crowd of people who are willing and able to ask any question they want: He basically ignores their pointed question and then rambles on about history or makes a quote from the Quran or does anything but answer the damn question.

Or simply lies through his teeth. (Remember kids, there is no such thing as gay people in Iran. Ahmadinejad told you so! )

Bollinger knew all of this before the sesssion even started.

What was the last thing he said before Ahmadinejad walked out?

I doubt that you will have the intellectual courage to answer these questions, but your avoiding them will in itself be meaningful to us.


Although I think Bollinger gives Ahmadinejad too much credit.

It's not a case of lacking the intellectual courage, it's more a matter of never having to actually respond to a direct question with a direct answer. He can't do that because he's probably never had to.

That alone is telling.

I especially liked this line from Bollinger regarding Ahmadinejad's Holocaust-denying:

For the illiterate and ignorant this is dangerous propaganda.
When you come to a place like in this makes you quite simply ridiculous.

Anybody care to translate that into less polite language?

So...was it worth it?

Maybe now that the Left (Barack Obama excluded) has seen and heard what a swell guy Ahmadinejad is, they can see the futility of trying to open a dialogue with someone who does a pretty good imitation of a stone wall.

Maybe now they'll see just how fruitful and productive talking with this clown would be.

Maybe.

texasjohn

I think it is revolting that an American Institution would give this nutjob a podium to begin with.

He is a guest of the UN, NOT the US.

I can almost assure you if this event was in Iran, Bush would not have had the same podium in an Iranian University.

The same reason I think we are stupid to allow the Saudis to build mosques in the US when they won't allow a SINGLE church in Saudi Arabia.

But we bend over ALL the 'effin time!

The enemy is WITHIN!!! We can easily defeat the ousiders. At least they identify themselves.

2 cents worth, -that's all folks! Coffee anyone?